[address-policy-wg] 2007-01 New Policy Proposal (Direct Internet Resource Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC)

Hi,

Domestic contracts (LIR-User) is much simple (and in some not so rare
cases - is only way) than international (RIPE NCC-User) one.

RIPE NCC did a lot of things in Russia to make special Russian contract,
and it really works now here. But there is still a lot of problems to
sign and legally use of this contract because of local laws.

In Ukraine situation is worse: at first, because of laws are more ugly,
at second, there is no local Ukrainian contract. In fact, ALL of
Ukrainian RIPE NCC members signed standard (unchanged) service agreement
acts ILLEGALLY at Ukrainian side. Unable to pay money to RIPE NCC
legally is most harmless consequence of it.

A month ago Ukrainian local work group is started to make Ukrainian
local contract like in Russia. But I didn't hear anything about this for
 other ex-USSR countries with similar laws: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan,
Georgia and so on.

A week ago I requested from RIPE NCC Russian agreement for our registry
based in Ukraine. It fits here as mostly similar legal demand and
Russian language documents are still often accepted in Ukraine. But I
got reply "wait for special Ukrainian agreement" from RIPE NCC.

Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 02:14:23AM +0200, Sascha Lenz wrote:
>> With the actual situation in Russia - probably otherwhere too, it might 
>> make more sense to look into another concept, probably somehow like 
>> DENIC (.de ccTLD) handles it for Domains here (someone correct me if i 
>> talk rubbish here):
> 
> I think this is a good approach, and should work for all countries where
> LIRs can find a way to make a contract with the RIPE NCC.
> 
> Max, is that something that would work in your environment?  I don't know
> the legal obstacles in Russia, Ukraine, etc. well enough to be sure it 
> would work out.
> 
> Gert Doering
>         -- APWG chair


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WBR,
Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)