[address-policy-wg] Policy proposal: #gamma IPv6 Initial Allocation Criteria

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Gert Doering wrote:
>> Looks like every enterprise out there would also get a /32.
>
> If they are willing to undergo the necessary paperwork, and pay the
> yearly fees, yes.
>
> (Which is only different from today insofar as "today the enterprise
> has to lie to RIPE [or be quite creative in their definition of 'customer']
> to get the /32" - look at current allocations where people are wondering
> how the critera could have been fulfilled)

No, it's very different.

Only the biggest enterprises can lie or "find the right words" about 
the "200 /48 other organizations" rule.  For example, explain they 
have 200 branch offices for which those wouldn't really be separate 
organizations.

With the proposed model, 1-man enterprise could also get a /32.

I guess there's practically no way to prevent very big enterprises 
from getting a /32 under the current policies, if the sites want the 
space.  But we must not extent that to "every enterprise out there". 
There are way too many of those.

>> Doesn't look like a good idea at all.  While I agree that the "200
>> customers" rule could maybe use a bit of improvement, I don't think
>> removing it completely is the right fix at all.
>>
>> So, I'm opposed to the policy change.
>
> I'm wondering what your alternative proposal is, as you don't like the
> 200-customer rule either.

Don't get me wrong: the current policy is OK to me, but I could accept 
some amount of rewording.  The current proposal is overkill, though.

As to the alternative.. we could, for example, decrease the 
200-customer limit to (say) 50 or add add some text to describe what 
we really meant with that (for example, you don't actually need to get 
200 v6 customers in 2 years, but that you basically have 200 distinct 
customers).  Some clarification for basically transit-only ISPs could 
also be done.

I think we (as in, the "community", hopefully, "the global community") 
could find the words to achive this.

> If you're worried about a landslide: let's put an (arbitrary) safety
> margin in there "only 5000 prefixes are handed out, then we stop and
> re-evaluate policy".

Quite the contrary.  If we start with too liberal policy now, we're 
never (practically) going to change it to be stricter later.

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