[address-policy-wg] FORMAL PROPOSAL: change of initial PA allocation size

Randy, Gert and all,

Randy Bush wrote:

> > So please: constructive criticism is welcome, but things like
> > "all that you do is wrong, because APNIC is doing something!"
> > (and no further reason or detail given) are just wasting our
> > time.
>
> excuse!  where did i say that?  please do not put stupid words into
> my keyboard, i do that well enough.  i merely responded to what i
> considered an unwise statement which sets an incorrect atmosphere
> and could become a quoted precident set by a co-chair of this wg.
>
> >>> So if we send out a formal proposal to change RIPE things to
> >>> RIPE lists, and nobody from the RIPE community objects - what's
> >>> wrong with assuming consensus, then?
>
> i still consider this unwise, and for the reasons i stated.  and,
> in the face of such statements, i do not consider pointing out that
> we are making, or proposing to make, policy that affects the global
> internet a waste of time.  if you feel it wastes yours, you have a
> delete key.

  Your response here Randy was a bit harsh, as I am sure you are
aware of and intended.  However am I wrong in my understanding
on these exchanges on this thread that a rift in differences of ideology

has crept into the policy making process here unto engaged?

  As Randy well knows I do not often agree with his ideas or
point of view.  But in this instance I certainly do.

  It is at least unwise and I contend impossible for any WG to
decide what an initial PA allocation size should be without the
known and measured consensus of those directly and indirectly
effected. Yet a global view and policy is prudent if not necessary.

  This said, it is also understandable that Gert's view from
a RIPE Regional/local view in setting a initial PA allocation size
may have some Regional/local advantages but could/would cause a
disparency on a global business basis..  As such a need for a global
policy is more attractive if it is crafted to meet or even slightly
exceed
a known current need and a far future need...

>
>
> randy

Regards,

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