Another RIPE-181 implementation

Marten,

> Hey! How dare he say these things about our software ;-) ;-)

  Well, he was actually confused by Merit having two RIPE databases with
names that differed by one character.  (Not surprising, I guess).
But then he followed with:

> DEATH TO THE PRDB

Woe!  Insult!

--Dale  :-)



Seriously, though, some of us (the RA and RIPE, at least) are going to
have to face decisions about when ISPs running 181 software are big
enough/ serious enough to be part of the IRR.  CANET (and MCI?) can
ignore the problem if they don't use full IRR network/route lists in
their configs and if they don't offer full IRR prtraceroute data.  But
what should the criteria be for RIPE or the RA (or others) for
accepting Joe's-Bar-and-Grill.net as a source of IRR data when Joe
says he's running 181 and would like to be included?  (At the very
least, we could put him as lowest priority for believing his data.)

One possible model:  copy the NAP policy:  anyone can buy a connection
to the NAPs, but you have to convince individual members there that
they want to peer with you...  (e.g. you have to convince RIPE and 
the RA and whoever else separately that they want to include your
data in their servers).

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>  * > From: Ed Kern <ejk at digex.net>
>  * > To: "Dale S. Johnson" <dsj at merit.edu>
>  * > Subject: Re:  Mnt-by question
> 
>  * > this is fine..and I understand how it works...been running my own 81
>  * > then 181 database for about six months and Ive been bitten more times then
>  * > i can count ;)...I got lost at the very start with there being TWO
>  * > databases..
> 
> Hey! How dare he say these things about our software ;-) ;-)
> 
> -Marten




> >   The only problem at the moment is that you requested a new maintainer
> > object for AS2548 a few minutes ago (at the end of your message):
> > 
> > > > mntner:      MAINT-AS2548
> > > > descr:       Contact List for AS2548
> > > > admin-c:     Ed Kern
> > > > upd-to:      AS2548 at ra.net
> > > > auth:        MAIL-FROM ejk at nitrous.digex.net
> > > > changed:     ejk at digex.net 950130
> > > > source:      RADB
> > > > *ERROR*:     maintainer objects cannot be created automatically
> > > > *ERROR*:     This object has been forwarded to <rradmin at _radb.ra.net>
> > > > *ERROR*:     for authorisation
> > 
> > New maintainer objects need to be processed by humans, and we won't
> > have done that for a few minutes yet.  (The guy who usually does this
> > isn't here, and I have to look up the process).  Once that is done, you
> > will be able to submit route objects to the RADB.
> 
> this is fine..and I understand how it works...been running my own 81
> then 181 database for about six months and Ive been bitten more times then
> i can count ;)...I got lost at the very start with there being TWO
> databases..
> 
> DEATH TO THE PRDB



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