[routing-wg] 2019-08 Review Phase (RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned RIPE NCC Address Space)

On Wed, 4 Mar 2020, Nick Hilliard wrote:

> Carlos Friaças via routing-wg wrote on 04/03/2020 07:23:
>> Unfortunately, you will only "run AS0" over non-distributed APNIC space.
>> 
>> If you were able to do it for the full problem space, those who will 
>> continue to explore this weakness in the global routing system would not 
>> have an excellent alternative by simply choosing to abuse non-distributed 
>> space by the other RIRs...
>
> Carlos,
>
> are you seriously suggesting that APNIC or any other RIR should use a TAL for 
> 0/0 to claim authority over unallocated space from other RIRs?

Nick, All,

What did cross my mind was that if *one* RIR was going to double the 
not-so-cheap infrastructure, maybe, with enough levels of coordination 
with other RIRs (and a cost-sharing model), the cost could be (globally) 
smaller.

i.e. ((1+1) x 5 RIRs) vs. ((1 x 5 RIRs) + 1 by APNIC).


> This would be an extraordinary breach of trust in the RIR community.

Between RIR communities?

I wonder what would happen if *one* community at some point decides to ask 
their RIR to "please throw in also the unallocated/unassigned blocks 
(junk) from other RIRs, while you are at it" :-)


Carlos


> Nick
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