[ripe.net #102454] [henk at ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX]
Matthew Williams matthew at ripe.net
Mon Aug 16 19:21:14 CEST 2004
> I do not think it would cause confusion. Anyway, when we do > the changes, we > should tell our users rrc08 is moved to PAIX because of not > enough peers at > MAE-West. What about if they _don't_ get the message? Please, Arife... Forget about the dbase naming schema. If I download raw data from repository for rrc08, it should only contain data from peers at Mae-West. Nothing else. Anything else would be confusing to the user, who isn't going to keep track of when rrc08 was moved to another location. So we decommision rrc08 (only the name, not hw) at the Mae-West, move the hw to Paix as rrcwhatever. Now the user only needs to know that rrc08 data is from peers at the Mae-West, and rrcwhatever from peers at Paix. The hardware is the same, but the _purpose_ of the hw is completely different. Renaming the box makes that _very_ clear to the user. Ask James when he gets back from hols. I'm sure he'll agree :) Cheers, Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: ris-int-admin at ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin at ripe.net] > On Behalf Of Arife Vural > Sent: 16 August 2004 19:06 > To: Matthew Williams > Cc: ops at ripe.net; ris-int at ripe.net; 'James Aldridge'; 'Bruce Campbell' > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102454] [henk at ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] > Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX] > > > > > Sorry, I don't see your point. This case is exactly the > same as with > > rrc09: > > > > Based on the principle that an integer relates to a particular > > collection point irrespective of hardware, then keeping the same > > number doesn't make sense, and might even cause confusion among RIS > > users. > > I do not think it would cause confusion. Anyway, when we do > the changes, we > should tell our users rrc08 is moved to PAIX because of not > enough peers at > MAE-West. > > > > > At first _I_ didn't agree, but Rene and Lorenzo managed to > convince me > > that they were right ;) > > > > :-) > > I think I should chat with Rene, and Lorenzo to get some tips > to convince you :-) > > Arife > > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ris-int-admin at ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin at ripe.net] > > > On Behalf Of Arife Vural > > > Sent: 16 August 2004 17:37 > > > To: Matthew Williams > > > Cc: ops at ripe.net; ris-int at ripe.net; 'James Aldridge'; > 'Bruce Campbell' > > > Subject: Re: [ripe.net #102454] [henk at ripe.net: Re: [ris-int] > > > Re: RIPE NCC RIS box @ PAIX] > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we had this discussion before re: rrc09, and then > > > we came to a > > > > different conclusion. At least, we should be consequent > in order > > > > to > > > > cause minimal confusion. What changed? > > > > > > rrc09 was bit different than rrc08. rrc09 did not have > DB, rrc08 has > > > and I like to continue to use the same DB when it moves > to PAIX. And > > > purpose of rrc08 was getting the view from West Coast and we > > > will be available still at the West Coast. I do not think > > > it's useful to split rawdata just because we will change IX > > > at the same area. > > > > > > Arife > > > >
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