IPng: PIP Demonstrations/Participants
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To: wg-llt@localhost, ripe-list@localhost
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From: dixon@localhost (Tim Dixon)
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Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 15:07:05 +0000
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Cc: Z.Wang@localhost
I've received the following via Zheng Wang at UCL, regarding PIP.
Anyone interested, please contact Zheng directly at Z.Wang@localhost.
Tim
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* From: francis@localhost (Paul Francis \(formerly Paul Tsuchiya)
* To: j.crowcroft@localhost
* Subject: installing pip....?
* Cc: z.wang@localhost
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* Hi Jon,
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* We want to install a number of Pip hosts and routers
* around the internet so that we can 1) show a nice
* map of Pip infrastructure in Amsterdam, and 2) genuinely
* start playing with transition.
*
* I'm assuming that you can bring up one or two Pip hosts
* like you did before, but I'd like to ask if you have a
* few friends in UK or The Continent that would also care
* to participate.....
*
* The following outlines what we have in mind......
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* Thanks,
*
* PX
*
* ________
*
*
* We are interested in starting to populate the IP
* internet with a number of Pip systems. This will
* allow us to start experimenting with various aspects
* of Pip, particularly with transition from IP to Pip.
*
* Pip is one of the contenders for replacement of IP.
* IP is suffering from lack of addresses and scaling
* problems in routing. Pip's virtues are that it has
* new routing features such as provider selection, is
* easier to administer than IP or the other proposals,
* switches fast, and can more easily evolve over time
* to new functionality. This evolvability will allow
* us to install real-time flows as they are developed.
*
* To read about Pip, see the May 1993 issue of IEEE
* Network magazine. You can retrieve that article
* from thumper.bellcore.com:pub/tsuchiya/pip/ieeeNet.ps.
* Additional reading can be found in the internet draft
* repositories, especially draft-ietf-pip-processing-01.txt
* and draft-ietf-pip-architecture-00.txt.
*
* We are initially looking for a small number of "friendly"
* sites for initial experimentation. As we gain experience,
* we will be open to anyone who wants to participate.
*
* Pip transition involves creating a logical Pip
* infrastructure by tunneling over IP. It also involves
* translating between Pip and IP, for when a Pip hosts
* talk with IP hosts. Thus, your Pip host will be able
* to communicate with any IP host--you won't even know that
* it is a Pip host (unless you want to play with its
* provider selection feature). The tunneling puts Pip
* over IP with IP protocol number 4 (which means IP over
* IP). Thus, your border gateway filtering will have to allow
* these packets to pass through.
*
* The main purpose of the initial experiment is to play
* with our configuration software and make sure that we
* can successfully create a Pip infrastructure.
*
* Our software runs on Sun Sparcs running SunOS 4.1.2.
* We are flexible as to the extent of your involvement. If
* you don't want to do anything, but can supply us with the
* super-user password for your machine, we can do all of
* the installation from here. Otherwise, we can supply you
* with the binary, configuration files, and installation
* instructions. If you elect to install it, then you can
* be expected to have to reboot the machine and bring in
* new configuration files from time to time. We can
* probably expect a couple of false starts, so you may have
* to reboot several times in the first couple of weeks.
* If possible, the super-user method is preferable to us.
*
* We hope to start installation around June 15. Before we
* can start, we need to get commitments from participants,
* design the logical topology, and generate the configuration
* files. We can expect to start expanding the experiment
* around August, and adding dynamic routing (thus eliminating
* the need for static configuration) in October.