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To be eligible as a candidate I have to sign a statement that includes things like committing to follow the code of conduct, declaring that I never committed fraud etc. All good. But it also includes a statement (4.7) where I have to declare that I am not a member of the ASO AC.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So, even to run for the board, I had to resign.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This seems� unfortunate. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I can understand why it would be a conflict for someone to serve in both of these roles *at the same time*, but it seems perfectly reasonable for someone in a position like your to declare that, if elected, they would step down from the ASO.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I did have a look to see if I could figure out what the history of this is, but wasn't able to. Do we know if this was simply a corner case which was overlooked, or was there discussion (e.g preventing disruption, not wanting a small cohort of people swapping roles, preventing weird gaming, etc)?<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">W<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"> <div> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Independent of the actual outcome. So here we are�<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This has put me in an awkward position. The ASO AC is working in very important things right now, and I feel that I�m making a contribution there, but I�m forced to resign. Therefore, I have promised the ASO AC that I will stay involved as an observer (the meetings of the ASO AC are public! Please make use of that!) and that I�ll stay active as a volunteer/advisor/whatever they need.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">And if I don�t get elected, I will definitely run for the ASO AC again!<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sander Steffann<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">--- <o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">for every complex problem, there�s a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"> <span style="font-size:12.0pt">Op 6 mei 2024 om 08:57 heeft <a href="mailto:herve.clement@orange.com" target="_blank"> herve.clement@orange.com</a> het volgende geschreven:<o:p></o:p></span></p> </blockquote> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I confirm that the <a href="https://aso.icann.org/" target="_blank">ASO AC</a> has recently received the formal resignation from Sander Steffann and has taken note of it.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The Council is now comprised of 11 members (out of the 15 initial ones: there are currently no representatives from the AfriNIC region).</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Our <a href="https://aso.icann.org/documents/operational-documents/operating-procedures-of-the-address-council-of-the-address-supporting-organization/" target="_blank"> Operational Procedures</a> had been amended last November and the ASO AC is able to fulfil its functions with the remaining councilors. </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Constanze and I will be happy to present the Council activities during our next RIPE meeting in Krakow, and answer your questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Looking forward to seeing you very soon (in-person or remotely).</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Best regards</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Herv�</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">ASO AC Chair </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <pre 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