<html><head></head><body><div><div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br></div></div><br><div class="sh-signature"><div class="gmail_signature"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="sh-quoted-content"><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 06, 2024 at 7:39 AM, Sander Steffann <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl" target="_blank" class="">sander@steffann.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">Hi everybody!<div class=""><br></div><div class="">I got some questions about this, so let me explain.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Me having to resign from the NRO-NC / ASO-AC is because I am running for the RIPE NCC Executive Board later this month. To be eligible as a candidate I have to sign a statement that includes things like committing to follow the code of conduct, declaring that I never committed fraud etc. All good. But it also includes a statement (4.7) where I have to declare that I am not a member of the ASO AC.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">So, even to run for the board, I had to resign.<br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>This seems… unfortunate. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I can understand why it would be a conflict for someone to serve in both of these roles *at the same time*, but it seems perfectly reasonable for someone in a position like your to declare that, if elected, they would step down from the ASO.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I did have a look to see if I could figure out what the history of this is, but wasn't able to. Do we know if this was simply a corner case which was overlooked, or was there discussion (e.g preventing disruption, not wanting a small cohort of people swapping roles, preventing weird gaming, etc)?<br></div><div><br></div><div>W</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=""><div class="sh-quoted-content"><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""> Independent of the actual outcome. So here we are…<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">This has put me in an awkward position. The ASO AC is working in very important things right now, and I feel that I’m making a contribution there, but I’m forced to resign. Therefore, I have promised the ASO AC that I will stay involved as an observer (the meetings of the ASO AC are public! Please make use of that!) and that I’ll stay active as a volunteer/advisor/whatever they need.<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">And if I don’t get elected, I will definitely run for the ASO AC again!<br></div><div class=""><br></div><div class="">Cheers,<br></div><div class="">Sander Steffann<br></div><div class=""><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">---</span><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">for every complex problem, there’s a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong</span><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br><blockquote type="cite" class="">Op 6 mei 2024 om 08:57 heeft <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:herve.clement@orange.com" class="">herve.<wbr>clement@<wbr>orange.<wbr>com</a> het volgende geschreven:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="">Dear all,</span><br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US" class="">I confirm that the
<a href="https://aso.icann.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="">ASO AC</a> has recently received the formal resignation from Sander Steffann and has taken note of it.</span><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US" class="">The Council is now comprised of 11 members (out of the 15 initial ones: there are currently no representatives from the AfriNIC region).</span><br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US" class="">Constanze and I will be happy to present the Council activities during our next RIPE meeting in Krakow, and answer your questions.</span><br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US" class="">Looking forward to seeing you very soon (in-person or remotely).</span><br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US" class="">Hervé</span><br></p>
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