<html><head></head><body> <div dir="auto"><span style="color: var(--text-color);" dir="auto">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 08:52, Nigel Titley via ripe-list <</span><a class="" href="mailto:On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 08:52, Nigel Titley via ripe-list <<a href=">ripe-list@ripe.net</a><span style="color: var(--text-color);">> wrote:</span><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote" dir="auto">Although I have absolutely no doubt that RIPE NCC employees are in<br>general capable of splitting their community and work hats, for the sake<br>of the appearance of things they should avoid even the appearance of<br>conflict of interest.</blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" style=" letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; outline: currentcolor; San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;">Following on from my previous comment, I think it would be better to focus on avoiding<span class="Apple-converted-space" dir="auto"> *</span>actual* conflicts of interest. <span dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; ">I think worrying about</span><span style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "> appearances</span><span style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "> is what happens</span><span dir="auto" style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "> when<caret style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "></caret> there is a lack of understanding of the substance and, in the case of managing a useful and productive collaboration between the community and NCC-as-secretariat,<caret></caret> the substance seems important.</span><span style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; " dir="auto"></span></div><div dir="auto" style=" letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; outline: currentcolor; San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;"><br style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "></div><div dir="auto" style=" letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; outline: currentcolor; San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;">If the goal is to avoid a need for understanding, then it seems like the natural solution is that NCC staff should never be allowed to participate as members of the community at all. I don't think that is necessary or desirable.</div><div dir="auto" style=" letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; outline: currentcolor; San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;"><br style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "></div><div dir="auto" style=" letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; outline: currentcolor; San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;"><br style="unicode-bidi: plaintext; "></div><div dir="auto" style=" letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; outline: currentcolor; San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;">Joe</div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote" dir="auto"></blockquote></body></html>