<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think this isn’t a bad idea, but my only concern would be how easy it could be to abuse. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The process for fellowships states that one of the criteria is “need of financial assistance”, but how is that decided? <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I know this topic was brought up in the past and there were quite a few people who were vocally opposed to it. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personally I’d agree that finances should not be a blocker if someone was willing to step up and commit to chairing a WG<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><br> I do, however, worry that some people could be tempted to use the financial support as their only motivation for being a WG chair, which is obviously the wrong way around. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So maybe having something in the policy / process about the person having some kind of track record? 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However, in exceptional cases, for instance, if a WG would end up with no Chair during a meeting, a WG Chair can ask the RIPE Chair to request financial assistance from the RIPE NCC. This has mostly been limited to waiving the meeting fee, not for travel and accommodation.<br> <br> The matter was discussed at RIPE NCC Executive Board meeting December 2018 after it was brought to the attention of the RIPE NCC Executive Board through one of its members. The board was positive to provide support also for travel and accommodation if needed, and tasked the RIPE Chair trough EB402 tasked to make a draft procedure. <o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">The proposal is modelled after the RIPE Fellowship program and can be found at:<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"> <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/cc/ripe-working-group-chair-financial-support">https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/cc/ripe-working-group-chair-financial-support</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">If there is consensus from the community on this I will do a formal request to the RIPE NCC for such support.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Hans Petter Holen<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">ad-interim RIPE Chair<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>