<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">And so if this is indeed something people experience we need to fix it now.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Melchior</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 4:10 PM Amanda Gowland <<a href="mailto:agowland@ripe.net">agowland@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 17/10/2019 16:08, Hank Nussbacher wrote:<br>
> On 17/10/2019 17:00, Leslie wrote:<br>
><br>
> Indeed. I am clueless since I haven't seen a single incident message <br>
> among the various mailing lists. I would expect that RIPE should name <br>
> and shame those harassing people at meetings. I am truly speechless <br>
> that this goes on in 2019.<br>
I, too, am speechless.<br>
><br>
> -Hank<br>
><br>
>> Perhaps you are not the one being harassed and the folks who are<br>
>> haven't told you about their experiences.<br>
>><br>
>> Leslie<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:57 AM Hank Nussbacher <br>
>> <<a href="mailto:hank@efes.iucc.ac.il" target="_blank">hank@efes.iucc.ac.il</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> On 17/10/2019 16:24, Job Snijders wrote:<br>
>>>> Dear all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I've been observing various efforts towards constructing a safe and<br>
>>>> inclusive environment both at RIPE meetings and our online platforms.<br>
>>> I have not been to as many meetings as you but I have never seen any<br>
>>> incident, even in the slightest, where the people attending were acting<br>
>>> inappropriately in any sort of way. I consider RIPE meetings<br>
>>> extremely safe and inclusive, so just paint me clueless as to what the<br>
>>> issue is.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> Hank<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> I appreciate these efforts, however, I have some concerns with the<br>
>>>> process and our ability to execute.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> A careful observer may see that the next generation of Internet<br>
>>>> engineers is not quite like the current establishment. I believe this<br>
>>>> diversity needs to be acknowledged in our policies. We owe it to them<br>
>>>> to create an environment that contributes to their comfort and well<br>
>>>> being.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I recorded some thoughts on my way to RIPE - <br>
>>>> <a href="https://youtu.be/6_dLgcfv8kU" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/6_dLgcfv8kU</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Kind regards,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Job<br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
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