<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi José, Hi List,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">we are currently encountering the same 'issue'. We recently received a new ASN</div><div class="">which previously had been assigned to another LIR within RIPE-Region.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Our ASN is also referenced in several other AS-SETs (including some Russian providers),</div><div class="">which we never had any business relation with. We tried to contact them multiple times</div><div class="">in order to get our ASN removed from their macros, however, without any success.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While this is the way how the RIPE-DB currently works, there are some possible</div><div class="">improvements which might be worth to be discussed within the DB-WG;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) RIPE should remove all macro references if an ASN is returned to the their pool</div><div class="">2) Ability for LIRs to remove unwanted macro references for their ASNs themselves</div><div class="">3) Authorization for referencing ASN’s/AS-SET's in macros (probably not a good idea)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; 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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 30.10.2018 um 15:27 schrieb José Manuel Giner <<a href="mailto:jm@ginernet.com" class="">jm@ginernet.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi, we checked that our AS is present in the macro: AS24748:AS-THINX<br class="">(they have thousands of AS in their macro)<br class=""><br class="">After contacting atman.pl who is responsible for this macro, they tell me:<br class=""><br class="">> It appears that AS59432 is contained in one of our customers AS-SETs and<br class="">> it is automatically added to our AS-SET AS24748:AS-THINX<br class="">><br class="">> As soon as they remove AS59432, it will disappear from AS24748:AS-THINX<br class=""><br class="">We have asked him how we can find out who that customer is. But their answer doesn't give us any information.<br class=""><br class="">> Please be kindly informed that our macros are being built automatically<br class="">> according to our customers` macros. If your AS happens to be removed<br class="">> from whichever of our customer`s macros, ours is to be changed accordingly.<br class=""><br class="">We are concerned about this situation and do not know how to proceed.<br class=""><br class="">Thank you for your help!<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">José Manuel Giner<br class=""><a href="http://ginernet.com" class="">http://ginernet.com</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">members-discuss mailing list<br class="">members-discuss@ripe.net<br class="">https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss<br class="">Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ds%40schallert.com<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>