<div dir="ltr">Tanks for the references, I will study them with interest - and looking forward to the outcome of the IETF process.<div><br></div><div>It is however worth considering that a meeting within the Schengen area would probably not fulfil the requirements specified in your draft from 2006. </div><div><br></div><div>No matter how detailed specifications we make, somebody in the end have to make a judgement call on where to go. In some cases the landscape changes after the decision has been made. In such a case we must either live with the new requirements, move or cancel the meeting. In most cases that may be to late or to expensive.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 July 2017 at 15:05, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es" target="_blank">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Clearly what is missing there is something ensuring the “wide” participation from all the RIPE region countries, disallowing locations that will be of great trouble for people to attend, not restricting access to any specific country, allowing freedom of speech and freedom of Internet access. Meeting in a country that do any kind of Internet filtering should discard that location.<br>
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I suggest, instead of working in something new, looking at the IETF documents, as they may be a starting point.<br>
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<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>draft-palet-ietf-meeting-<wbr>venue-selection-criteria-04</a><br>
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Actual work is under a new WG:<br>
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Regarding technical requirements:<br>
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<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palet-ietf-meeting-network-requirements-01" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>draft-palet-ietf-meeting-<wbr>network-requirements-01</a><br>
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Fecha: miércoles, 5 de julio de 2017, 14:54<br>
Para: Jim Reid <<a href="mailto:jim@rfc1035.com">jim@rfc1035.com</a>><br>
CC: <<a href="mailto:ripe-list@ripe.net">ripe-list@ripe.net</a>>, <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>><br>
Asunto: Re: [ripe-list] choosing locations for RIPE meetings<br>
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On 5 July 2017 at 14:11, Jim Reid <<a href="mailto:jim@rfc1035.com">jim@rfc1035.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 5 Jul 2017, at 12:30, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <<a href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es">jordi.palet@consulintel.es</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I’m fine with an overall decision of the “general principles for a meeting location”, but is not that going to have almost the same difficulty for reaching consensus? Has this been decided already? There is a document about that?<br>
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I don’t believe so. IIRC there have been discussions from time to time about producing such a document and they never went anywhere.<br>
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The location of RIPE meetings are chosen according to the process described at:<br>
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The page links to a document describing the requirements.<br>
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Improvement suggestions are as always welcome.<br>
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As to the particular requirements for the upcoming meeting in Dubai, UAE, the requirements were not know to us, nor the local host at the time the decision was made. It would definitely been taken into consideration had it been known.<br>
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