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Hi Filiz,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/01/14 17:28, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:<br>
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Dear colleagues,<br>
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As the RIPE Programme Committee, we have done some house-keeping
recently and updated our charter. <br>
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The most prominent parts of the update are for the reflection of a
previous change in the size of the membership of the Committee
(from 8 to 12 seats) and for the documentation of the possibility
of removal of a PC member based on unanimous vote, following
Committee's decision at RIPE 67. <br>
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Just to document the changes, I see there's a third difference,
which you do not mention, between the two documents. <br>
"The PC members also select up to two Vice Chairs who aid the Chair
as necessary."<br>
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further, the responsibilities of the Vice Chairs are:<br>
"The Vice Chairs will work towards to ensuring active participation
of PC members."<br>
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I also see that the PC has already selected the Vice Chairs,
basically accepting the changes to the Charter before any feedback
could be offered.<br>
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Isn't active participation of all the PC members the main
responsibility of all it's members? Will the Vice Chairs have any
other responsibilities in the future RIPE Meetings?<br>
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type="cite">Further updates were for wording improvements towards
better readability. <br>
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The updated draft document is at:
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href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-600">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-600</a></span></div>
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<div>and is to replace:</div>
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href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-531">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-531</a><br>
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ripe-531 has already been marked as obsolete.<br>
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"This document is obsoleted by ripe-600"<br>
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<div>We will ask the RIPE NCC to publish the updated draft
document as a final RIPE Document on 5 February 2014. <br>
Until then, please let us know if you have any comments. <br>
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It's already published as a RIPE document and AFAIK any further
comments would require a new RIPE document to be created. Not that I
have any comments to the changes you guys have decided, it is up to
the PC how it organizes it's activity.. I am commenting on the way
you request the comments on the changes made to the charter.<br>
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You are requesting feedback on some changes that have already been
documented, approved by the PC (which has already chosen it's Vice
Chairs) and published in ripe-600 (thus rendering any comments
useless).<br>
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<div>Kind regards<br>
Filiz Yilmaz, Shane Kerr & Benno Overeinder<br>
PC Chair and Vice Chairs</div>
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cheers,<br>
elvis<br>
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