<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Jim Reid <<a href="mailto:jim@rfc1035.com">jim@rfc1035.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">On 15 Oct 2012, at 10:17, Olaf Kolkman wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">1. Are you consciously not mentioning DNS software? Do you expect DNS Open Source discussions to remain in the DNS WG? I think clarity is needed to avoid duplication.<br></blockquote><br>A charter needs to be suitably vague to allow for flexibility. In the case of this suggested WG, I think its charter should not enumerate lists of software that are in or out of scope. These will change over time => endless rechartering and existential debates that are best avoided.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I asked for clarity (of intend), not for enumeration (of software, protocols, or topics).</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><blockquote type="cite">2. There might be vendors that do not provide open-source but do have a genuine interest in understanding the needs of the community and would like to work with the community; are those welcome? There are probably also Open Source developers that need to run a business and use this as a marketing event. I understand you wouldn't want that (at least I don't) but how can you make the distinction? A paragraph about what this WG should not be might clarify.<br></blockquote><br>It it takes more than a paragraph to define a WG charter, we're doomed. :-)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As long as the chairs have a handle to declare a topic out of scope.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><blockquote type="cite">In general I like the idea.<br></blockquote><br>Olaf, you seem to be hinting the new WG could be about tools (open source or otherwise) rather than just open source software. </blockquote><br></div><div>Yes, thanks, that is indeed what I tried to communicate, but couldn't formulate so succinct.</div><div><br></div><div>--Olaf</div><div>
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