[ripe-list] RIPE86 results

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It is important to give direct feedback, p2p. What is the reason for a ripemtg session otherwise?
At least a feedback up on the quality of the presentation itself.

This is democracy - this is of high importance!

Your reply strengthens the need of a mandatory mic-time for all sessions.

My opinion.

Tahar

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: ripe-list [mailto:ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Johan Helsingius
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 17:06
An: ripe-list at ripe.net
Betreff: Re: [ripe-list] RIPE86 results

As one of the coop-wg co-chairs I have to say it is a hard balance to strike - do we want to have as many interesting presentations as possible, or do we want to use the time for discussion? My personal view is that we have the mailing list (that is open to anyone) for discussion and demo'cratic interaction, and the actual meeting sessions are best filled with presentations (with possible comments/discussion on the mailing list).

	Julf

On 31/05/2023 14:15, Tahar Schaa wrote:
> +1
> 
> ...but at least the mic is part of democracy at RIPE for me.
> 
> Due to this the implicit no-mic policy (ehh, we have no time...so no mic) in the coop-wg session at RIPE86 was a no-go for me.
> 
> I would support a mandatory mic-time for all ripemtg sessions to preserve democratic interaction.
> 
> cu
> 
> Tahar
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ripe-list [mailto:ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Alex 
> Band
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 11:15
> An: Mathias Westerlund via ripe-list <ripe-list at ripe.net>
> Betreff: Re: [ripe-list] RIPE86 results
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Once again it was a very well organised meeting, thanks a lot.
> 
>> On 30 May 2023, at 17:12, Warren Kumari <warren at kumari.net> wrote:
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>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:49 AM, Eric van Uden <ripe-list at ripe.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It was again a very nice RIPE Meeting, thanks to all for making this happen.
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>> Indeed.
>> Thank you to the organizers - it was, as always, a good meeting.
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>> I Prefer an "Event Hotel" and I prefer, when financial possible, a slightly more elaborate lunch with soft drinks.
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>> Yes, having the event in a hotel with a convention center / large meetings rooms is certainly much nicer, and leads to much better community building - a significant portion of meeting value is the hallway track. While this does somewhat still work between sessions / during lunch, not being as easily able to just meet for breakfast/dinner does take away from that.
> 
> The community building aspect really resonates with me, especially for newcomers.
> 
> I recently co-organised an event [1] limited (by budget) to ~250 people. It struck me ho much interaction there was among the attendees, both with the speakers and with one another, despite the fact that this was a new event and nobody knew each other.
> 
> Due to the size and relative intimacy of the venue (20 seats wide, 13 rows deep), having a discussion was as easy as throwing a mic around [2]. It seems much less intimidating than standing up, trying to make your way to the isle, line up behind someone who often appears to be a long-time expert to ask your question in front of a giant room.
> 
> Of course it’s fantastic RIPE meetings attract such a big crowd nowadays, but I wonder if there is some way to bring back more of the intimacy that fosters newcomers not just to attend, but to interact.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alex
> 
> [1] https://2023.rustnl.org/
> [2] https://catchbox.com/
> 
>> I personally was completely fine with the lunches - while it did seem to slow things down somewhat by having the venue staff serve the food, it really didn't bother me much.
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>> Von:        "Alex de Joode" <alex at idgara.nl>
>> An:        ripe-list at ripe.net
>> Datum:        28-05-2023 11:42
>> Betreff:        [ripe-list] RIPE86 results
>> Gesendet von:        "ripe-list" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net>
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>> RIPE86 has closed,
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>> so first congratulations to Raymond, Maria and Harald!
>>
>> Second thanks to the RIPE NCC for organising a marvellous event (even if in Rotterdam ;) and a lunch without nasi and sateh :( ).
>> This time the event venue and hotel's were separate, as this also was the largest RIPE ever, we might see this a new way to do meetings. Personally I feel having a 'event hotel' gives me more of a community feeling. Would be nice if we could have some data concerning this (do ppl not care as some might opt for cheaper hotels anyways, do they have a preference for one/other).
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>> Third, as to the GM results, could the RIPE NCC give some background on the actual numbers for the votes of the charging scheme? Did option D receive a clear majority, or only in the run-off? This might be very relevant for finding the way forward.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
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