[ripe-list] [diversity] Two Documents from the Code of Conduct Task Force

On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:16 AM Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 07:03:29PM +0200, Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
> > This is a process performed by volunteers, who have the benefit of the
> > community at heart. Please consider volunteering, since you seem to be
> > very passionate about justice and fairness.
>
> Nothing here ensures that the CoC enforcement team will continue to
> be manned by positive and caring individuals.
>
> When this was presented first time, my thought was "this looks more
> like a band seeking revenge", and I stated so (and was yelled at).
>
> I do feel very much at home in the RIPE community, but if we institute
> a system without proper balances, I wouldn't feel comfortable anymore.
> In essence, what Malcolm said.
>
> Look at the process through the eyes of someone intent on harming
> someone else, through whatever means needed.  Is it still good?
>

Right now, without the CoC, someone intent on harming someone else
could harass the victim with no recourse.  Is that good?


> > - this kind of process is proven to work in many other communities.
>
> The "other communities need this" argument has never really rang true
> for me.  We're not "other communities", we're RIPE.
>
> > - within RIPE, we had a "lite" version for several years now, called
> > "Trusted Contacts" (TC) , and I have been one of the people "appointed"
> > to this role: difficult job, so I got a training; it's not perfect to be
> > appointed, nor it is perfect that I have kind-of "conflict of interest"
> > since I work for RIPE NCC. As TC, we were not "empowered" to take any
> > action, partially because we were not selected by the community,
> > partially because there was no CoC framework... as we have now.
>
> This is something I've liked and wholeheartly supported  (and while
> not *formally* empowered, you were trusted to do the right thing, and
> the NCC had all the empowerment it needed to kick out someone from
> a RIPE meeting if needed).
>
> Gert Doering
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