[ripe-list] [diversity] Two Documents from the Code of Conduct Task Force

Alex,

this will be my last message today -- taking my own guidelines on 
"taking a deep breath" before sending too many messages ;-)

On 14/09/2022 20:43, Alex de Joode wrote:
> The *community* should not act outside the law, the *community* should 
> respect and support basic fundamental rights. This process does not 
> respect basic fundamental rights 

I disagree.

> The outcome of the proposed process can have real world consequences. 
> Consequences that might be unfair maybe even career-ending

This is a hypothetical consequence.

I want to point you out to the _existing_ real-world consequences, and 
career-endings that already happened for many of the participants in 
technical communities (including RIPE) because of the behaviors that CoC 
is trying to prevent or deal with.

Many *women* leave tech industry because of abuse, or micro-aggressions.
We are missing out on the contributions by persons of color, young 
people, "people with thin skin"...
People with different views on priviledge do not even consider joining.

> The process makes everyone attending an 
> RIPE event a potential target with no due process, no recourse, a total 
> absence of fairness totally  at the mercy of the CoC, and only the CoC.

I argue that the _absence_ of process is one of the factors that have 
resulted in the existing state of (lack of) "diversity & inclusion" in 
the RIPE Community.

> RIPE Legal can hopefully research what are the potential liabilities for 
> RIPE, for the organizers of events and for members of the CoC itself. 

Thank you, this is a good suggestion.

> for damage claims (loss of employment, libel/defamation). You can sue 
> RIPE, the event or (individual) members of the CoC. 

I don't think that this fear should stop us from implementing the 
process -- and I expect that these kind of extreme decions will not be 
taken lite-ly!

> You also state:
> /Please consider volunteering, since you seem to be very passionate 
> about justice and fairness./
> 
> When the process has been changed to include fairness and has a high 
> change of delivering justice I might consider.

I am curious about your suggestions for increasing fairness.

Thank you,
Vesna