[ripe-list] Draft Document: RIPE Task Forces - Definition and Guidelines - v3

No, you're making the mistake if you interpret that I'm considering a single case.

When I read any proposed document, I try to think ahead in what can be wrong "in the future" not just according to the past, because clearly the goal is to avoid issues in the future. The past only tells us what was wrong, but the past has no "exclusivity" and can't be taken "alone".

As you say, precisely because there is no abundance of volunteers, we can't have the risk that anyone may be excluded.

Also, see how the other RIRs that have "TF" (called also WGs), APNIC and LACNIC, don't have any way to restrict participation.

Recently in APNIC there was a call for volunteers for a WG to review the complete policy manual. There were over 130 volunteers if I recall correctly, that joined the mailing list. However, the real participation was about 4-5 people, and we did the job by splitting the most important changes in different policy proposals, all resolved by the very small set of people and almost all them reached consensus. No issues!

Another example is a running WG in LACNIC, for making a single policy proposal for the chairs elections process, as they were 2 competing policy proposals and we could say that they were almost a copy of the earlier one, so the chairs couldn't determine consensus (or actually I must say that both should have reached consensus). The call for the WG was open, only 5 people joined and we are doing the job. Again, no issues.


Regards,
Jordi
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El 10/4/22, 22:49, "ripe-list en nombre de Gert Doering" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de gert at space.net> escribió:

    Hi,

    On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 08:01:23PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list wrote:
    > Clearly the goal is to get the job done.
    > 
    > If TF members "a, b and c" agree to work on that, but they disagree to work with "d, e and f", and "d, e and f" have no problem to work with "a, b and c", the ones that are avoiding the work to be done is "a, b and c", not the others.

    Jordi, your cases are hypothetical.

    You are making a big fuzz out of one (1) task force that did not want
    to let you (Jordi) join.  Get over it.

    There is no general abundance of volunteers that are denied entry in
    large numbers of task forces of great importance in RIPE land.

    Gert Doering
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