[ripe-list] [diversity] Updated Draft RIPE Code of Conduct Published for Community Review

Common sense for me is on the other way around. A TF with 5 people is much better than just 4. Even 10 people, maybe not 25.

Common sense is to define up-front what is the allowed membership, not afterwards having a discussion about that and then making an arbitrary decision, because the original email on the call for the TF was non crystal clear.

Furthermore, it seems, it was not just the chairs decision?

It is interesting to see that, unless I missed it, there is nothing about that discussion in the minutes (I read this morning the emails in the list for September-October-November). So, if there was such discussion in the TF, then it was not minuted (so not so transparent).

So how to trust the rest of the minutes, if that's the case?

I recall also that the archive of the mailing list was open only once I asked for it. So the goal of transparency was not there from day 1.
 

El 26/3/21 17:33, "ripe-list en nombre de Mirjam Kuehne" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de mir at zu-hause.nl> escribió:

    Hi Alex,

    On 26/03/2021 15:55, Alex de Joode wrote:
    > On Fri, 26-03-2021 13h 38min, Mirjam Kuehne <mir at zu-hause.nl> wrote:
    >
    >     09 Nov 2020: TF Chair advises latecomer that TF is not empowered to
    >     expand its membership, explains the arrangements to be made for
    >     transparency, and encourages latecomer to contribute to the work
    >     of the
    >     TF by posting to the TF mailing list.
    >     https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/coc-tf/2020-November/000080.html
    >     <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/coc-tf/2020-November/000080.html>
    >
    > Thank Mirjam,
    >
    > I
    > <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/coc-tf/2020-November/000080.html>'m
    > a bit curious about the word 'empowered'.
    >
    > Does that mean that a TF can only do what is explicitly allowed, and
    > there is no room for 'common sense'/'filling in the blancs' ?
    >
    >

    There is always room for common sense in RIPE. The request was discussed
    by the TF and as a result, the TF communicated that the membership of
    the TF had been decided and that it wouldn't make sense at that point to
    add more members as the work was well underway. In addition to that the
    TF took a number of steps to increase transparency and to make it easier
    to contribute to the work of the TF.

    Kind regards,
    Mirjam









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