[ripe-list] [diversity] Updated Draft RIPE Code of Conduct Published for Community Review

Hi Mirjam, all,

I can't agree with that:

1) Inputs from the legal team, should be open and transparently presented to the community.
2) As with any other documents, policies, etc., Community should be able to provide any inputs that we believe necessary, and not just "general principles or specific questions".

Do we have minutes from the CoC meetings and contributions from the legal team?

In fact, in messages from Leo (9/11/2020) and Niall (10/11/2020), I was suggested to contribute to this work via the mailing list, so that's what we are doing (not just me). Discussing about documents is the way we always did in this community, and this discussion is not subjected to just "general principles or specific questions". Anyone that disagree with any aspect of a document can say so, and if it is not resolved, we just don't reach consensus.

Further to that, I want to insist in asking what is the rational for excluding anyone from a TF, without a predefined and community accepted rules for doing so. I insist that it is a discrimination according to my knowledge of Spanish and several English dictionaries (for example "unfairly treating a person or particular group of people differently from others"). Note that I'm making this question in a generic way. Maybe I missed a RIPE document that explains it. I don't recall having seen it before, I don't recall anyone has said publicly he/she was not allowed to participate in any TF before. If such document doesn't exist, and we want to have that possibility without constituting a discrimination, we must work on that. Yes, this is a different topic as the CoC work, you may want to open a new thread on that.

Now in a more specific situation, if the rejection of my participation in the CoC TF was a mistake, just say it. I don't need even a justification. Just recognize that it was a wrong decision or lacking backup from the RIPE documents and I will be happy and done with that. Otherwise, "silence" is not the way, in my opinion, and I will need to keep going asking for a rationale here and where necessary, because otherwise, we are showing to the world that we are not really and open and transparent community as we usually say.


Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 25/3/21 14:37, "ripe-list en nombre de Mirjam Kuehne" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de mir at zu-hause.nl> escribió:

    Dear all,

    The Code of Conduct Task Force  frequently receives input from the RIPE
    NCC’s legal team. You can be assured that any legal matters in the
    document will be closely reviewed by Athina and her team.

    I think it would be most helpful to the TF if you provide feedback on
    the general principles of the document or any specific questions you
    might have.

    Kind regards,
    Mirjam
    RIPE Chair





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