[ripe-list] Proposal for a full-time position for the RIPE Chair

Hi Leslie, 

Sorry you missed the Dubai meeting. 
On this topic, the question by Nigel was to bring this to the ML ... 

So here it is ... 

Erik

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 25 nov. 2017 om 00:49 heeft Leslie <geekgirl at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> This is a very interesting idea!   I missed the Dubai meeting - was
> there a recorded discussion I could watch to see some more viewpoints?
> 
> I'm curious what Has Petter thinks!  Would people be willing to leave
> their jobs to do this full time?  Would it be more of an ecouragement
> or a discouragement?
> 
> FYI I am currently undecided, I would love to hear some others'
> thoughts to inform my own opinion.
> 
> Leslie
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Erik Bais <ebais at a2b-internet.com> wrote:
>> Dear RIPE community members and RIPE Exec Board,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As proposed during the GM in Dubai, I would like to discuss if it is
>> possible to change the Chair position of RIPE into a full-time paid
>> position.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to explain why this might be good for the community and my
>> thinking behind it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As one might expect, being a RIPE chair, requires a huge amount of
>> spare/private and vacation time and an employer (if not self-employed) that
>> would see the value or benefit of employing the RIPE Chair.. and there is
>> the ‘stress’ especially if it is busy at the office (day-job) and seeing
>> issues that would demand your attention, with a community with its huge size
>> …
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Currently it is my expectation that the RIPE chair position is consuming
>> more than 14 weeks of work in its current way how Hans-Petter is running the
>> position. And that is currently unpaid …
>> 
>> Obviously not everything is covered in this by his vacation days .. and it
>> is not that he is sitting idle on his hands at his day job.
>> 
>> 
>> If the RIPE Chair position would be a full time position, it would allow the
>> RIPE chair to attend more regional NOG meetings, member lunches, other RIR
>> meetings or ICANN meetings or help with more Governance discussions with the
>> various Governments that require our communities perspective.  Or talks
>> about GDPR or alike …
>> 
>> It would be good for the community if the RIPE Chair would and could
>> position/voice the community view, which may or may not be similar or be
>> voiced differently in meetings with governments or ICANN meetings, apart
>> from the view of the RIPE NCC itself.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The RIPE community currently doesn’t have its own Governing entity .. we
>> say, we are the community .. but the community doesn’t have its own entity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What I would propose, is to setup a separate entity … with a small separate
>> board.
>> 
>> The RIPE Community board role would be to act as a management oversight..
>> they would be make sure that the finances of the new RIPE Community entity
>> are in balance and to assist with possible Chair rotations ( interviews for
>> future candidates etc. ) but also act as peers in discussions for the Chair
>> in certain more delicate situations / discussions that the Chair might face)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Obviously should the finances in consolidated form, be open for the
>> community.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Currently we have a great Chair.. and I think Hans Petter is doing a stellar
>> job, but it is my question if this particular point should be updated.   And
>> I think it should.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What I like to see is that the Chair position is going to be funded by a 6
>> year grant from the membership fees via the RIPE NCC.  And the position
>> itself would be for an initial 5 year with 1 optional renewal of 5 year by
>> RIPE Community Board approval. So a max of 10 years in total for the
>> position per named person (Chair).
>> 
>> The idea behind the 6 year rolling grant, is to make sure that the RIPE
>> Chair will never get in a position where the RIPE NCC might cut the funding
>> because of unpopular decisions towards the RIPE NCC.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If the Chair (after being a Chair for 10 years) is rotated, I think the
>> former Chair should have no problem getting another position, if one of his
>> primary roles is to network or communicate with members in the community.
>> 
>> His/her role should provide sufficient connections for other activities
>> after the RIPE Chair position.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As a Community, we have a voice and the community makes policy. And the RIPE
>> NCC is the company that operates based on the guidance of those policy on
>> behalf of the community and its members.
>> 
>> I would personally like to see the community and membership, be embedded in
>> the new RIPE community setup.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If that would also mean that the new RIPE Community entity should hold
>> (/obtain) the RIPE NCC (company) shares, is something that I like the Exec
>> Board to discuss.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How this should be setup in the governance model, is something I would like
>> to ask the Exec Board to provide in a proposal, once the discussion looks
>> positive …
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From a cost perspective, it is my expectation that it would be about 25 to
>> 35 euro per LIR per year … While we look at a refund of 300 euro per year
>> per LIR because of the budget surplus …  I don’t think that the cost are
>> going to be an issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Erik Bais
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>