<div dir="ltr"><div><div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">Job, clearly the question is addressed to you but as this is a public list, I will take the liberty of responding to it from my point of view. </div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Daniel Karrenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net" target="_blank">daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-m_-6073882089291540031gmail-"><br>
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On 18.05.17 13:56 , Job Snijders wrote:<br>
> If we sought to avoid "overly polemic debate", I expect that we'd show<br>
> restrain in the application of rethorical devices.<br>
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</span>Such as "You are of course entitled to your opinions."?<br>
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<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>No but I have been reading the following in this thread: </div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:12.8px">I think you've been in close proximity to ICANN folk for far too long.</span>" </div><div>"wanna-be lawyers" </div><div>"amateur lawyers" , who apparently,</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">"are </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">likely to kill RIPE in the long term if left totally unchecked." </span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">The last one was in your own mail Daniel and bears an accusation as well as a demeaning character.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">It is unclear who it refers to and what it means in the context of this discussion. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">It brings obscure unnecessary negativity to the discussion even if you may have had no real intention behind to do so initially.</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>This thread will only improve once it switches from discussing people (their jobs, affiliations and backgrounds etc) to discussing ideas and concepts with substance respectfully.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div>Filiz Yilmaz </div></div><br></div></div>