[ripe-chair-discuss] Chair nomination process

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From: ripe-chair-discuss <ripe-chair-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
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To: Daniel Karrenberg <dfk at ripe.net>
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Subject: Re: [ripe-chair-discuss] Chair nomination process

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>>>> I am failing to understand what I sense is questioning of why we are
>>>> providing input and even if we should provide input.
>>>
>>> I should clarify - I am not saying you are questioning the input, but
>>> some of the discussion on the list certainly reads like it. Apologies
>>> if this could be read to mean otherwise.
>>
>> We are in hallway mode again.
>
> i am deeply saddened at the tenor of our discussion on this list.  this
> is not the european cooperative culture which keeps me coming back to
> ripe after i have left the arin, apnic, ... communities.
>
> usually, i would assume it is the medium; email sucks.  but we're all
> old dogs at this, and should know how to use email.  and we're all old
> enough to be beyond second guessing as a sport.
>
> do we really feel the process is wrong and we were not heard when we
> reached consensus on the process?  do we really question the integrity
> of the nomcom?  do we really question the integrity of the nominees?
>
> i, for one, do not question any of these.  sadly though, i am wondering
> if the tenor and negativity on this list should cause me to rethink my
> participation.

Thank you for this, Randy.

I've been reading all of this since Nick's first email and I'm honestly very surprised by it all.

This has been one of the most community discussed and approved processes I've experienced in my time involved with RIPE and to have people suddenly, at this late stage say, "Well, I wasn't paying attention, but I have some concerns, which aren't about the people involved, but..."

Randy asks excellent questions. I think we have a process which worked its way through the Community incredibly publicly. We have a good pool of candidates. Sure, I'd love if it was bigger, but that requires people to volunteer, this doesn't happen magically.

I'm really confused what people are asking for here, and I would utterly reject the notion that we suddenly shout stop.

I continue to support the very collaborative work that I see the NomCom doing. I continue to support the process that we, as a Community, agreed to, and I look forward to work with whomever the NomCom chooses as our Chair and Vice-Chair.

We will have a review of this process and we will all be able to suggest improvements and figure out how to make everything better for next time, but right now, I'm more than happy with what's happening right now and will happen over the next 6 - 8 weeks.

Thanks,

Brian


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