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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17.12.22 03:00, Massimo Candela
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:9a67fe82-b547-3767-6e6c-ee7263d5e5a5@ntt.net"> On
17/12/2022 00:19, Barry Raveendran Greene wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">On Dec 16, 2022, at 23:29, Stephane
Bortzmeyer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr"><bortzmeyer@nic.fr></a>
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">There is a larger problem here, a more
strategic one: such a feature <br>
would contribute to the centralisation of the Internet, which
is <br>
already too important. Tagging some targets are "important"
and <br>
"worthy of measurements" would mean that we consider some HTTP
servers <br>
to be more useful than others. That would be a bad message
from RIPE. <br>
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We’ve come full circle - we started with centralized PTTs -
moved to a decentralized ASN/Paul Baran model - now
Re-centralized based on marketing domination. <br>
<br>
+1 with Stephane’s observation. The selection of who to measure
is a statement. <br>
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+1 <br>
<br>
Also, while the data would be useful, I don't think the role of
the ripe ncc is to grade commercial services. Let other companies
or individual researchers do that. <br>
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On the one hand i agree with Stephane, but on the other hand, it is
a fact that there are a few large providers/CDNs who have a
significant share... of specific webservices. I don't like that
either, but i can't deny it either. I agree, that manually selecting
those providers/CDNs for such a measurement could be understood as a
statement. But maybe there's another way, to select which one of
those providers/CDNs to measure? Instead of manually selecting them,
there could be some sort of "threshold" which a provider/CDN has to
reach, to be part of this kind of measurement. This way, it wouldn't
be a statement, but a static delimitation. I am unsure what kind of
threshold it could be, and how to detect it. It should probably be
some sort of technical value.<br>
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BR,<br>
Simon<br>
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