<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry Gert, but i strongly disagree. <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I might be troubleshooting something in our network where I have no interest in making the results public.</pre> </blockquote> RIPE Atlas is primarily designed for INTERnet measurements, not Intranet. To see, how things look like from other networks. If you want to troubleshoot something inside your own network and need privacy, you can do it the classic way, by using your internal test-equipment or monitoring. <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">There's no "right to see all measurements" here</pre> </blockquote> I highly appreciate RIPE NCCs efforts for maximum transparency and open-data, and i hope this will never change. This is what Atlas was intended to be (as far as i can tell). <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">if someone wants to see something, they are free to run their own measurements with their own credits.</pre> </blockquote> In this point, i disagree as well. It shouldn't be necessary to run the same measurement multiple times. For what reason? It would be a waste of credits, time and ressources. Also, keep in mind that this redundant data has to be stored somewhere. If one has a problem with open-data philosophy, he shouldn't participate in this project. There's only one exception i could agree with: measurements can be private, if you only deploy your own probes/anchors for that measurement. But if you decide to use other peoples probes, the results should be public. BR, Simon On 16.12.22 19:13, Gert Doering wrote: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:Y5y1RX+Cpk6%2FVgVa@Space.Net"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:41:42AM -0800, Steve Gibbard wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Atlas, and the RIPE NCC, have two fairly separate constituencies: researchers and operators. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> This. Operators (like me) are willing to host Atlas anchors and probes, and thus contribute to the system. I might be troubleshooting something in our network where I have no interest in making the results public. So I value the option to have non-public measurements. There's no "right to see all measurements" here - if someone wants to see something, they are free to run their own measurements with their own credits. What I do with my credits (which do not come for free) and who can see the results should be my decision. Gert Doering -- NetMaster </pre> <fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset> </blockquote> </body> </html>