<div dir="ltr">Hi Robert, all:<div><br></div><div>One suggestion is to reach out to community networks operating in Europe and beyond to help ensure their networks are being monitored as well. Let me know if you need me to facilitate any introductions to the wider community via the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity (DC3) email list.</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Best,<br>-Michael</font><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:15 PM Robert Kisteleki <<a href="mailto:robert@ripe.net">robert@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
On 2019-02-20 09:36, Gert Doering wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 06:52:28AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:<br>
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019, <a href="mailto:scg@gibbard.org" target="_blank">scg@gibbard.org</a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> ASN coverage is just 5.6%. That really doesn't give a complete global <br>
>> view for stats. Rather than return money to LIRs every year in their <br>
>> bill, why not state that any LIR running an active probe within their ASN <br>
>> will get a 50Euro credit on their bill? That alone would increase ASN <br>
>> footprint coverage quickly within RIPE.<br>
> <br>
> I like that suggestion :-)<br>
> <br>
> (Not sure how that will pan out if we reach 50% of all LIRs, but to get<br>
> from 5% to 20%, it might definitely be an idea)<br>
<br>
Interesting idea indeed!<br>
<br>
Let me try to address a few points that were mentioned before, perhaps<br>
by providing some background information along the way.<br>
<br>
The growth rate is indeed slower than in the early days. As with<br>
everything, there's no single reason for this. On one hand we had<br>
shortage of hardware probes (which is hopefully solved for the moment,<br>
see:<br>
<a href="https://labs.ripe.net/Members/alun_davies/new-ripe-atlas-version-4-probes/document_view_resolve" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://labs.ripe.net/Members/alun_davies/new-ripe-atlas-version-4-probes/document_view_resolve</a>).<br>
On the other hand, it's harder to reach "uncovered" networks and as<br>
someone mentioned before, the "the low hanging fruit being pretty<br>
saturated".<br>
<br>
We measure ASN coverage compared to all ASN-s that announce anything at<br>
all, so depending on how hard one wants to argue for having a probe "in<br>
every AS", this may or may not need improvement. We're certainly<br>
encouraging all our ambassadors and prospective hosts to deploy probes<br>
where we don't have them yet. The current application process has a<br>
built-in preference for new networks.<br>
<br>
For a few years now the procurement of new probes is funded exclusively<br>
by sponsors. Therefore we'd be very happy to see more sponsors stepping up.<br>
<br>
Finally: the public graph about the number of users shows the total we<br>
have so far (meaning users who interacted with RIPE Atlas while they<br>
were logged in via RIPE Access). We can, if this is deemed useful, track<br>
the number of recent users too (for some definition of recent).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Robert<br>
<br>
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