<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Hi list,</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">A couple of weeks ago, I asked in this thread why some built-in measurements are missing, or not performed at scheduled interval.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Cristel and Robert very kindly shared what they thought could be the causes: scheduling, probe reboot, updating task list, etc.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">The discussion gave me the idea to verify if there are as well missing measurements while the probe is powered and connected to an Atlas controller, i.e. probe seemly works in a good condition.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Here, I would like to share one case among many Ive observed where built-in measurements are missed continuously for a long time, even when the probe is well connected to a controller.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Lets look at a time window from '2016-06-16 21:53:20 +0000 to '2016-06-18 20:16:40 +0000 for probe 22144.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">First, I queried its connection events to Atlas controller (msm_id 7000).</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">The result says the probe connected to a controller at '2016-06-16 21:54:19 +0000 and became disconnected at '2016-06-18 20:13:48 +0000. Between these two moments, the probe is supposed to remain connected, and thus continuously powered.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Then, I queried the built-in ping measurements toward b-root (msm_id 1010) within the time window.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Here below the timestamps at which measurements are performed.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">[2016-06-16 22:51:08 +0000, '2016-06-17 02:07:08 +0000, '2016-06-17 03:11:02 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-17 04:03:07 +0000, '2016-06-17 05:23:03 +0000, '2016-06-17 07:35:17 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-17 10:51:06 +0000, '2016-06-17 14:07:04 +0000, '2016-06-17 15:11:03 +0000,</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">'2016-06-17 17:23:06 +0000, '2016-06-17 18:27:04 +0000, '2016-06-17 20:39:04 +0000, </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">'2016-06-17 22:51:09 +0000, '2016-06-17 23:55:03 +0000, '2016-06-18 02:07:08 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">'2016-06-18 03:11:04 +0000, '2016-06-18 06:27:05 +0000, '2016-06-18 08:39:02 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-18 10:27:13 +0000, '2016-06-18 10:51:08 +0000, '2016-06-18 11:55:13 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-18 12:03:13 +0000, '2016-06-18 15:11:04 +0000, '2016-06-18 17:23:05 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-18 18:27:09 +0000, '2016-06-18 18:43:13 +0000, '2016-06-18 19:35:18 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-18 20:15:06 +0000]</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">We can see the intervals between neighbouring measurements are much larger than the planned value 240sec.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">I investigated as well other built-in ping measurements, say toward k-root (msm_id 1001). </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Here below are the timestamps:</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">['2016-06-16 22:51:08 +0000, '2016-06-17 02:07:07 +0000, '2016-06-17 03:11:05 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-17 04:03:08 +0000, 2016-06-17 05:23:03 +0000, '2016-06-17 07:35:17 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""> '2016-06-17 10:51:10 +0000, '2016-06-17 14:07:04 +0000, '2016-06-17 15:11:04 +0000',</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">
]</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Very similar phenomenon is observed.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Between the first two measurements in the above lists, there is an interval of more than one hour, which can hardly be explained by measurement secluding issue or temporarily high load.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Whats more, the probe remained connected at those moments, therefore is free of reboot and power-off..</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">As a reference, probe 12657 has all the measurements coming at due interval within the time window.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">What could be the possible causes behind such missing is my doubt. </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">And I do appreciate your thinkings on this so that the measurements can be processed and analysed with propre caution.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Thanks.</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">Regards,</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class="">wenqin</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-stroke-width: initial; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-kerning: none" class=""></span></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 02 Sep 2016, at 12:57, Robert Kisteleki <<a href="mailto:robert@ripe.net" class="">robert@ripe.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 2016-09-02 12:20, Wenqin SHAO wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks for confirming. The specified frequency is indeed well respected. When there is no data-missing, the interval shift rarely exceed 14s, small compared to 240s the scheduled interval.<br class="">What intrigues me is that the exact phase/timing is as well kept after power cut and reboot.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The probes have a crontab-like mechanism to remember what they need to do.<br class="">As long as their clock is more or less ok, they will stick to the<br class="">pre-allocated times and tasks.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">By the way, can a measurement be as well skipped, as designed behaviour, due to scheduling issues mentioned by @Cristel?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">We're trying to avoid overloading probes, but not everything is under our<br class="">full control. Some measurements can pile up; Cristel & Randy & co. had a<br class="">paper about the observed (worst-case) behaviour.<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class="">Robert<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>