<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Peter Gervai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grinapo+ripeatlas@gmail.com" target="_blank">grinapo+ripeatlas@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":2wp" style="overflow:hidden">Exactly my point. Unless the probes don't consume significantly more<br>
resources it's there to help connectivity. If someone wants to provide<br>
a service then s/he must constantly generate credits which results<br>
more probes to be available for me. It causes me no harm if someone<br>
earns money while providing me resources.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And while Stephane makes money, the system is being strengthened, to my advantage. I assume the new commercial offering will need, and hence place, probes in Africa as well, which I will use, for free!<br>
</div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":2wp" style="overflow:hidden">
However as others mentioned it strongly requires a well balanced<br>
credit system to prevent large volume users (be they commercial or<br>
not) to consume too much resource, and to prevent small individual<br>
probe owners from starving by not being able to provide enough credits<br>
to be able to make their own measurements.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The number of credits I get is not affected by what Stephane uses, right? And Stephane had better create as many credits as are required by customers. So it in the commercial entities self-interest to go sponsor more probes, and keep them online.<br>
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Basically that's the same as open source / open content economy:<br>
commercial insterests have to provide resources to the others in<br>
exchange of their (smaller) resources. (Probably there should be some<br>
requirement to assure topologically well distributed probes from mass<br>
users.)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The first service to use Atlas probably will not be well balanced, but the next few can. After all, there is nothing to stop me stealing^Wbeing inspired by the current proposal, and implementing it for Asia. <br>
</div></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Adam Smith was right, the baker and the butcher feed me by being selfish.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>-- <br>Sanjeev Gupta<br>+65 98551208 <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane">http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane</a></div>
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