<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Приветствую.<div><br></div><div> Ответ Arne Kiessling из RIPE NCC, если кого-то еще интересует:</div><div><br></div><div>----------</div><div><blockquote type="cite">I failed to find any documents on your site except ripe-452, but<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ripe-452 describe cease of contractual relationship and there is no<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">contract between end user and LIR right now. I am actually not 'end<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">user' but a LIR representative and probably have to inform our<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ex-end user about this ripe policy change and my question will be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">first question they ask me.<br></blockquote><br>- The RIPE NCC recently published a procedure document describing the<br> process for this: ripe-475, "Independent Internet Number Resources -<br> Contractual Relationship Changes between sponsoring LIR and End<br> User" which is available here:<br><br><a href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html</a><br><br><blockquote type="cite">The question was: what exactly end user with PI address space and/or <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AS have to do when LIR<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">choose 'Not my End User' in 'Independent Resources - Contractual <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Relationship' form. Is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">there any complete instruction on RIPE site or end user should write <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">letter to someone in RIPE<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">or somebody in RIPE will contact end user in near future?<br></blockquote><br>- The future sponsoring LIR can request to have the resources in<br> question moved to their registry by sending an email to<br> <a href="mailto:enduser-contract@ripe.net">enduser-contract@ripe.net</a>. They need to provide the following<br> documents:<br><br>- End User Assignment Agreement between the LIR and their end user<br> regarding the registration of the resources which complies with the<br> requirements described in ripe-452, "Contractual Requirements for<br> Provider Independent Resource Holders in the RIPE NCC Service<br> Region"<br><br>- official Company Registration Documents of the end user’s<br> organisation<br><br>If the end user can not find a sponsoring LIR for the resources they<br>hold the RIPE NCC will contact the end user directly in the future.</div><div><br></div><div>----------</div><div><br></div><div>И дополнение в ответ на просьбу процитировать письмо в рассылке:</div><div><br></div><div>----------</div><div>If you could also mention that end users with independent resources<br>have the following options:<br><br>- sign an End User Assignment Agreement with a sponsoring LIR of their<br> choice (this does not mean end users have to sign a contract for<br> connectivity or other services with the sponsoring LIR)<br><br>- become Direct Assignment User and sign an End User Assignment<br> Agreement directly with the RIPE NCC<br><br>- become LIR<br><br>- renumber their network and return the resources<br><br>For those who attend the RIPE Regional Meeting in Moscow this week, we<br>will also have a Services Center and be able to answer your questions<br>there.</div><div><br></div><div>----------</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 02.09.2009, at 17:25, Sergey Budnevitch wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Приветствую.<br><br> Коллеги, подскажите где на сайте ripe'а найти последовательность действий<br>end user'а в случае, если LIR для ASN и PI блока адресов пользователя выбрал<br>вариант 'Not my End User', а ресурсы эти действительно используются?<br>В ripe-452 есть фраза "If the End User wishes to cease their current contractual<br>relationship, they must first have a new contractual relationship in place with either<br>another sponsoring LIR or else with the RIPE NCC. In either case, such contractual<br>changes must be communicated to the RIPE NCC each time they occur."<br>В нашем случае 'contractual relationship' отсутствует, пользователю<br>остается писать на деревню дедушке в RIPE или есть более детальное<br>описание процедуры заключения прямого договора с RIPE NCC?</div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>