[Persian-lir] LIR Training
Arya Abidi arya.abidi at gmail.com
Sun Jun 12 18:31:19 CEST 2016
سلام من هم با این موضوع که یک کارگروه رسمی ایجاد شود موافقم و همچنین خیلی خوبه که یک کمپ آموزشی هم برگزار بشه ================================== Arya Abidi CTO @ PiroozOnline.net Dedicated Internet & Network Solutions Mobile : +98 9192001700 Tel : +98 21 26413104 <http://ir.linkedin.com/in/webnavard> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Hisham Ibrahim <hmi at ripe.net> wrote: > Dear all, > > Dear Friends and colleagues, > > > I have been following the discussions (as best as I could) and would like > to weigh in with a few thoughts… > (I apologise in advance for the long email) > > 1) The RIPE NCC offers a range of courses both online and in person. [1] > Of course the face to face training has a much bigger impact however the > team of 8 trainers at the RIPE NCC need to balance their presences in more > than 70 countries in its service region. These workshops are delivered only > by the RIPE NCC staff to guarantee the accuracy of the information > delivered. > The training department at the RIPE NCC has delivered a number of > workshops that include: > 2015: A Law Enforcement Agency Workshop for the fata police. (45 attendees) > 2014: IPv6 for LIRs (31 attendees) & DNSSEC (35 attendees) > 2011: IPv6 for LIRs (46), LIR Training (43) & Routing Registry Training > (44 attendees) > We plan to come back to Iran soon and the plan is also to try to hit some > of the larger cities in Iran other than Tehran. > > 2) MENOG: [2] > There are efforts to enhance the presence and impact MENOG has in the > Middle East region. > There were certain challenges that the meeting was facing in the past that > the current MENOG team [3] are trying to solve. > One of these issues was its limited impact and presence in the non-Arab > Middle Eastern countries (namely Iran and Turkey). > One of the realisations the team has come to this year is focusing on > holding two big events in a region of 14 countries means that it will be > years before the meeting can make its way back to a country. > So the MENOG team decided to hold only one annual event and focus more on > holding more diverse and frequent Roadshows to meet the training demand > from the whole region. You can read more in the MENOG PC chair’s message. > [4] > > 3) The Roadshows: [5] > The IPv6 Roadshow launched in 2011 as a joint initiative of the RIPE NCC > and the Middle East Network Operators Group (MENOG). > Based on the current discussion in the team we are looking into expanding > the scope of the Roadshows to cover other topics such as ccTLD operations, > BGP Roadshows as well as the regular IPv6 Roadshows (both for ISPs and > Enterprise). > The idea is to try to build events around these workshops to discuss other > topics such as DNSSEC & DANE, or building and scaling Internet Exchange > Points or National IPv6 days. In other words a mini MENOG dedicated to a > topic and a country that is interested in that topic. > These Roadshows are usually delivered by International Internet experts in > the field. However the MENOG team also felt it was important to have locals > co-train these Roadshows as well. Which brings us to the Train-the-trainer > program. > > 4) Train the trainer (TTT) > In 2015, the IPv6 Roadshow launched the "Train the Trainer" (TTT) > programme. This spin-off programme is aimed at building a diverse pool of > highly-skilled Middle Eastern instructors capable of delivering future IPv6 > Roadshows, ensuring that the project can continue to evolve and scale to > meet the growing demand for this kind of training. We have had three TTT > participants co-train six of the IPv6 Roadshows since the launch of the > programme. > > This year the TTT workshop was held the week prior to the ENOG meeting in > Moscow to duplicate the experience in that part of the world. There are > plans to hold the next TTT workshop in early 2017 and we hope we can have a > few Farsi speaking candidates among the people we train (you may recall I > mentioned this during our last RIPE NCC regional meeting in Tehran 2014 [6] > and again during the member lunch last year). > > 5) Final point is on the translation efforts, we discussed during the > member lunch trying to have some material translated into Farsi by the > local technical community (I can not tell you how painful using an online > translation tool is)… We agreed to set up this temporary mailing list to > try to mobilise the local Iranian community to self organise in the way > they see best and try to start a local technical forum or meeting as well > as start running an online wiki or translation platform. > > This can help us a lot with our engagement in Iran. I hope this discussion > can take us now to where we wanted to go a year ago and still have not > managed to accomplish. > > As always I am happy to provide any more information on the activities > planned by the RIPE NCC in the region. > I am also happy to provide more details on the MENOG / Roadshow plans (in > the RIPE NCC’s capacity as MENOG secretariat.) > Regards > Hisham > > [1] https://www.ripe.net/support/training/courses > [2] http://www.menog.org/ > [3] http://www.menog.org/menog-team/ > [4] http://www.menog.org/news/menog-once-a-year-announcement/ > [5] http://www.menog.org/ipv6-roadshow/ > [6] > https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/regional-meetings/ripe-ncc-regional-meeting-tehran > > > > On 12 Jun 2016, at 13:07, Mayssam Rahmatian <m.rahmatian at adpdigital.com> > wrote: > > جناب مهندس نادرپور > ضمن تشکر از حسن نیت شما و تشکر بابت تمامی پیگیری های فعالانه . > بنده با آقای آشوری موافقم. بالاخره این آموزش و فرهنگ سازی و درخواست ها > باید از یک جا شروع شود.و با جدیدت از سوی همکاران و این کارگروه و پیگیری و > اجرایی شود. > انشا الله دیگر دوستان هم با جدیت شرکت خواهند کرد. > تشکر > رحمتیان > > > > <image002.gif> > M A Y S S A M R A H M A T I A N > *Atieh Dadeh Pardaz NOC Administrator* > *Tel: +98 - 21 - 89 67 14 04* > M.rahmatian at adpdigital.com > *P Save a tree... please do not print this e-mail unless you really need > to * > > 2016-06-12 13:26 GMT+04:30 Arash Naderpour <arash_mpc at parsun.com>: > >> جناب آشوری >> >> >> >> شاید اگر تعداد کسانی که عضو اینجا بودن بیشتر بود کار راحت تر میشد اما >> شاید 30 درصد اعضا بیشتر اینجا نباشن. تعدادی از دوستان هم سکوت رو بهترین >> راهکار میدونن وشاید هنوز به این نتیجه نرسیدن که میتونن تغییری در جهت >> منافعشون ایجاد کنند. >> >> >> >> بنظر من حداقل کاری که الان میشه انجام داد شرکت در نظر سنجی جاری رایپ ان >> سی سی هست و همزمان باید به راه اندازی فروم و یا یک کارگروه یا هر راهی که >> میزان مشارکت رو بالا میبره فکر کرد. >> >> >> >> آموزش های درست (به زبان فارسی) چندان دور از دسترس نیستند. ولی راهش خواسته >> شدنش توسط اکثریت اعضا است به نظر من. (ما تعداد محدود نمیتونیم از طرف دیگران >> کاری بکنیم) >> >> >> >> در نظر داشته باشیم که ما تونستیم نرخ مشارکت ایران رو در همایش های رایپ ان >> سی سی بالا ببریم شاید هنوز نتیجه دلخواه رو نگرفته باشیم ولی در مسیر درستی >> هستیم. >> >> >> >> با ارادت >> >> >> >> آرش نادرپور >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Persian-lir [mailto:persian-lir-bounces at ripe.net] *On Behalf Of *Sepehr >> Ashoori >> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 June 2016 5:09 PM >> *To:* Mayssam Rahmatian <m.rahmatian at adpdigital.com> >> *Cc:* persian-lir at ripe.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Persian-lir] LIR Training >> >> >> >> با سلام و عرض ادب >> >> >> >> دوستان من فکر می کنم باید برای ایران یک کارگروه رسمی ایجاد شود و در آن >> تعدادی از اعضا که دانش فنی و عملیاتی و ارتباطی خوبی دارند به عنوان اعضای >> این کارگروه رسمی به رایپ معرفی شوند و تمامی خواستهها از طریق این کارگروه >> به طور رسمی به رایپ ارسال شود. در این صورت، میتوان امکانات بهتری را از >> رایپ دریافت نمود که یکی از آن میتواند آموزش باشد. >> >> >> >> با سپاس >> >> >> >> سپهر آشوری >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> From: m.rahmatian at adpdigital.com >> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 11:34:35 +0430 >> To: mohammad at iranserver.com >> CC: persian-lir at ripe.net >> Subject: Re: [Persian-lir] LIR Training >> >> با سلام >> >> بنده هم موافق هستم بابت کلاس های آموزشی و یاد گیری امکانات جدیدی که باید >> اعمال میشود. بنده چندین بار به RIPE ایمیل ارسال کردم مبنی بر ارسال لینک >> ویدئو کلاس های آموزشی ولی لینک های ارسالی هیچ کدوم کار نکرد. و با پیگیری >> هایی ایمیلی که شده بود بی نتیجه ماند. >> >> باشد که این آموزش ها چه از سمت رایپ و داخلی پر رنگ تر و بیشتر شود. >> >> تشکر >> >> رحمتیان >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <image001.gif> >> >> M A Y S S A M R A H M A T I A N >> >> *Atieh Dadeh Pardaz NOC Administrator* >> >> *Tel: +98 - 21 - 89 67 14 04* >> M.rahmatian at adpdigital.com >> *P* *Save a tree... please do not print this e-mail unless you really >> need to * >> >> >> >> 2016-06-11 13:42 GMT+04:30 Mozafary Mohammad <mohammad at iranserver.com>: >> >> سلام >> در هر دو مورد شرکت ما موافق هست و میتونیم نظراتمون رو مطابق با دیگران برای >> RIPE NCC ارسال کنیم. اگر کلاس تشکیل شود که بهتر و در صورت عدم تشکیل، >> هزینه ایرانیها(با توجه به اینکه بعید میدونم دوباره دوستان در RIPE پاشون >> رو بذارن اینجا) کم بشه :) >> مظفری >> >> >> >> On 6/11/2016 11:17 AM, Shahin Gharghi wrote: >> >> سلام >> >> >> >> >> >> با توجه به برنامه ریزی بودجه سال 2016 ( >> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-662) مقداری از حق عضویت >> پرداختی عضو ها صرف هزینه آموزش می شود که بخشی از آن آموزش حضوری است که >> البته نیاز به اعلام درخواست و آمادگی از سوی اعضا را دارد. >> >> لذا با توجه به اینکه اینجانب و دیگر اعضای محترم از سال 2014 تا کنون چندین >> درخواست میزبانی کلاس آموزشی در ایران را داشته ایم و عمدتا با عدم پاسخ از >> سوی RIPE NCC مواجه شده و یا گاها با پاسخ منفی مواجه شده ایم, لطفا نظرات >> خود را در رابطه با درخواست گروهی از RIPE NCC برای برگزاری کلاس آموزشی و >> یا کاهش هزینه سالیانه عضویت, در این mailing list مطرح فرمائید. >> >> >> >> با تشکر >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Shahin Gharghi >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Persian-lir mailing list >> >> Persian-lir at ripe.net >> >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/persian-lir >> >> >> >> -- >> >> محمد مظفری >> >> معاونت فنی ایران سرور >> >> 051-37673600 (داخلی 110) >> >> www.iranserver.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Persian-lir mailing list >> Persian-lir at ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/persian-lir >> > > _______________________________________________ > Persian-lir mailing list > Persian-lir at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/persian-lir > > > > _______________________________________________ > Persian-lir mailing list > Persian-lir at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/persian-lir > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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