[opensource-wg] false accusations about Rob McEwen (from invaluement) posted to this list

Open Source List members (and Elad in special)

Elad Cohen is now set to moderated on the list - meaning his post are only seen on the list after one of
us WG chairs or someone from RIPE approved it.

Post like his repeated past messages are NOT TOLERATED on this list. Please refer to RIPE Code of Conduct.
We welcome technical disagreements and you are welcome to present weird technical ideas (specially if they
are related to Open Source) on this list, but personal attacks as done by Elad are NOT allowed.

Elad was warned before after his initial email and he decided to ignore it.
Regards,
Martin Winter
Open Source WG Chair

PS: While we blocked Elad, we want to offer a chance to people who were attacked to respond in a final email
to correct the accusations and have the last word.

On May 7 2020, at 11:32 pm, Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:
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> You are a complete liar. You are Rob Shultz.
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> I will decide when to expose "Mike Anderson" real identity and the real identity of your other "The Spamhaus Project" mob members.
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> You know many many more than 5 people in "The Spamhaus Project" - you know them all, personally.
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> You claim to be involved for 24 years in the email security and also to know information which is not publicly available on "The Spamhaus Project" but never heard the name "Rob Shultz" or "Mike Anderson", yeah right.
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> The attack on me here continued one day after I wrote your real identity to the RIPE Board and RIPE Management. In a coordinated attack on me - they attacked me here and in Nanog and with their fake media reporter that reached to me, all of these 3 things exactly at the same time and one day after I wrote your real name privately to RIPE board & management, if it wasn't true then Spamhaus wouldn't be getting into such panic and starting to attack me again after being quiet for many many months.
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> You are Rob Shultz, keep on denying it and it will lead me to call out all your "The Spamhaus Project" mob friends and not only the few that I did.
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> Respectfully,
> Elad
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> From: Rob McEwen <rob at invaluement.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 12:00 AM
> To: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>; opensource-wg at ripe.net <opensource-wg at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [opensource-wg] false accusations about Rob McEwen (from invaluement) posted to this list
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> On 5/7/2020 4:22 PM, Elad Cohen wrote:
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> > Can you confirm or deny that you know or don't know the real identify of the key person behind "The Spamhaus Project" which is "Mike Anderson"? Only Spamhaus members knows the real identity behind "Mike Anderson", come on deny or confirm if you know his real identity or not and after it I will write his real identify and proof that you know him personally.
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> Elad,
> I have no idea who "Mike Anderson" is - I've don't recall ever hearing that name until you brought it up in this thread. However, it is within the realm of possibility that I might know the alleged real person you claim is behind that name? That might be one of the 3 or so people who I know of at Spamhaus? But that alone wouldn't prove that I know who "Mike Anderson" is! It is possible that I might know the person you claim is hiding behind an alias, without actually ever having known that such a person was (allegedly) hiding behind THAT alias.
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> NOTE: I just did a search of my email, going back years - and I think I'm up to knowing 5 people at Spamhaus? But I had to dig and take "trips down memory lane" to get that 3 to go up to 5. But I still probably couldn't name more than 3 of them off the top of my head at any given time.
> Also, I'm not going to confirm or deny ANY information about Spamhaus - ESPECIALLY if it isn't a matter of public record. Why? Because that would be unethical. Anti-spam operations are constantly subjected to abuse and attacks - even occasional death threats - and I don't want to be responsible for providing public information on any person's identity that might put that person at risk of being harmed by criminals.
> It's not my job to do someone else's dirty work. (or nutjob work?)
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> ALSO - I've been involved in email security for 24 years. There are a heck of a lot of people from many many years ago with whom I've probably had extensive conversations - and now I have completely forgotten them. I don't have a photographic memory. But I don't recognize "Mike Anderson" and I can't find any record of communication in my email to/from such a person, or in any of my customer information or other notes or contact information.
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> --
> Rob McEwen
> https://www.invaluement.com
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