[ncc-services-wg] UA IP transfers situation

    Hello everyone, let’s try to be a working group and try to work on
solution, not new troubles and argues. For now, all of it looks bad, some
“shady games”, after I’ve asked some questions on RIPE 85 about this
“suspend UA” ideas, I have received threats and was asked to shut up for
“my own good”.

   Now about problem and solution, I think we should lean to idea of “self
suspend” for a 1/2 years button or just using RIPE LIR support ticket and
more investigation and due diligence on all transfer tickets from occupied
territories of Ukraine.




On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 at 15:08, Max Tulyev <maxtul at netassist.ua> wrote:

> 31.10.22 13:41, Олена Кушнір пише:
> > Good afternoon, I congratulate  Maksym Tulyev’s good friend  - Mr.
> > Leonid Khorolets ( I am attaching a photo of these friends)
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=419278544911556&set=p.419278544911556&type=3
> > <
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=419278544911556&set=p.419278544911556&type=3
> >
>
> Really we are not a close friends, but yes, we know each other, like I
> know you, for example.
>
> If you want to talk about it - let me remind you that Fedienko is not
> only your friend - this is a person who your business depend on. The
> majority of WebPro customers are government and state companies, so if
> he will be not satisfied - you will lost your customers.
>
> > I do not trade IP
> > addresses compared to YOU, and first of all I think about the security
> > of my network and other operators.
>
> Trading of IPv4 address space, which is only a part of my business, is a
> legal business. If you want IPv4 - buy it on the market. If you do not
> like me - buy it from another seller, ask for financial help or
> donations. But do not try to steal it from mine and my customers,
> closing the market with government-based regulations.
>
> Once again: THIS IS NOT YOUR RESOURCES. And we (officially) not a
> communist country.
>
> > Also, I represent not only my
> > interests, but also the interests of the Internet Association of
> > Ukraine, which delegated me to the conference.
>
> This is clear lie.
>
> All delegations, statements, presenting and so on in InAU can be only
> after board members voting about it. There was no vote about your
> delegation. I have just asked our managing director (may be I forgot
> something?) - and he confirmed it too.
>
> May be you have similar "mandates" from other associations? Needs to be
> checked well.
>
> > TULYEV has done nothing since 2014
>
> Again, you can just see through the RIPE mailing list archives.
>
> > I continue many consultations on our issue,
>
> And again, THERE IS NO ISSUE at all. Only your fantasies.
>
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С уважением,
Артем КСТ
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