[ncc-services-wg] UA IP transfers situation

I can't argue this, as it is a possibility. It just does not seem overly
convincing in the overall context.
Considering I have done this for my company earlier this year (however unrelated to Ukraine or any other wars), I very much think this is a realistic possibility. Very few people here are saying they are selling IP resources as a business, but it can still be a source of some emergency cash when things are not going as expected.

In any case, it seems infinitely more likely than IP resources being stolen in the RIPE region, considering it clearly is happening and there have not been any actual confirmed (or even alleged) cases of resources being stolen from Ukrainian LIRs.

I don't think any resource lock should be applied automatically, as it is easy enough to miss such a notification.

Having an opt-in resource lock might be a possibility, but we also need to consider the possibility of a rogue employee (perhaps shortly before being fired or quitting, but even outside of this) activating a resource lock that could then cause significant financial harm to the LIR. We also need to consider that ownership and management of a company can change completely for legitimate reasons.

Maybe there could be an opt in button with a notification being sent to all LIR contacts with an opportunity of a week or two to cancel it?

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On October 31, 2022 at 10:52 AM GMT+1 inetcomas29442 at gmail.com<mailto:inetcomas29442 at gmail.com> wrote:

Gert Doering how many resources do you have registered in Ukraine?

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:47 AM Gert Doering <gert at space.net<mailto:gert at space.net>> wrote:
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 10:37:01AM +0100, Leonid Khorolets wrote:
> For example, to transport your IP with infrastructure to a European state
> where there is no power outage, etc.

For this, I do not need a transfer to another LIR.  While it's still
"my Internet business", it can be located anywhere - the sort of
transfer stop we're talking about is "move to another LIR", not
"move to another location" (which is of no interest to the RIPE NCC,
as it's still the same resource holder).

> Also sell part of the IP to maintain
> business and pay salaries in a war and the company's profits fall into the
> red.

I can't argue this, as it is a possibility.  It just does not seem overly
convincing in the overall context.

Gert Doering
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