[ncc-services-wg] Dear Olga Syra and Paul BD, thank you for your correspondence and position, but I would like to start a discussion not about personalities, but about proposals, the transfer of IP addresses from Ukraine.

Hello Alexander,
It would help others to understand you better if you will be less
emotional and will clarify below.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:34 AM Федієнко Олександр Павлович via
ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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> Thank you, Ms. Olga, for your answer.

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> If you read my answer, please note that I wrote absolutely nothing about actions.
It looks like you blame others for the lack of constructivity, but at
the same time you propose nothing. Is it true?
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> My proposal was precisely in the direction that RIPE NCC should develop the policies itself, and until such time as it does not have them, block transfers of IP addresses from the territory of Ukraine.
For me it sounds like you think that RIPE NCC doesn't have any policy
and you try to push them to invent something. But it isn't true, RIPE
NCC has reliable transfer policy.
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> There were letters from the public that expressed a slightly different position, which I wrote about.
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> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2022-November/003654.html
Sorry, but the link shows me your email where you call us Tyleiv army,
see attached screenshot.

> I also believe that the current transfer procedure is imperfect and carries risks with regard to Ukraine's information security.
> That is why we really need to discuss this issue.
So based on someone's beliefs RIPE NCC should block all transfers for
Ukrainians, am I right?
It isn't enough that we are suffering from  war, so let there be more
unreasonable restrictions.
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> Paul BD, thanks for your replies, but any suggestions?

Community, please pay attention to the below quote.
> I don't have the resources, but I believe that there are risks in transferring IP addresses, especially in occupied territories.

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> So, yes, new policies need to be developed to protect those LIRs that are delegated the use of IP addresses.
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> I also see risks regarding state information resources that are based on and use IP addresses that, for example, belong to IP addresses that are not under the jurisdiction of Ukraine.
You are already a deputy, It would be easy to protect state resources
if you create a legislation proposal to host state resources only with
companies in the jurisdiction of Ukraine and on IP addresses
registered for UA. Transfer forbition will not solve this problem. And
there isn't a right place to write about this problem.

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> I am confident that the RIPE NCC working group should look into these issues and make recommendations
Do you know who are they?
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>   Paul BD, tell me who exactly I called and threatened? :)
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> If we are talking about the text of Mr. Tulev, then he is fooling the society, and instead of being constructive, he continues to accuse that someone is threatening him. Maxim fled the country, so nobody is interested in his active life.
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> Considering you are unconstructive, thanks for the chat, and goodbye.
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> I don't know who your lawyer is, but he is right, give him congratulations.
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