[ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs

Can we get any kind of official statement from the RIPE NCC on the current status on this?

If the RIPE NCC are indeed blocking transfers in violation of the current RIPE policies despite @hph at ripe.net<mailto:hph at ripe.net>'s previous statement on this then affected LIRs should, if the transactions in question are high value enough, consider taking legal action against the NCC and this should be kept in mind for the next board elections.

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On December 19, 2022 at 2:02 PM GMT+1 vs at liptel.net.ua<mailto:vs at liptel.net.ua> wrote:

Do I understand correctly that right now you are writing policy for Ukraine, having never been here during the war?
Will these be new proposals to get paper documents after going under missile attack to a government office where there is no light?

Your European idea of security does not actually protect objects, but creates more problems for Ukrainian companies. Moreover, it is already the end of the year and soon there will be new payments for lirs.

I propose to write policies in Kyiv, and even better in Kharkov or Kherson. and then you will definitely see how to protect what you are trying to take away from us: the freedom to make decisions.

Please, write policies, but let Ukrainian companies work, and don't block the already long-suffering economy.

Regards, Viktor


От: Sergey Myasoedov <sergey at devnull.ru<mailto:sergey at devnull.ru>>
Кому: <vs at liptel.net.ua<mailto:vs at liptel.net.ua>>, <ncc-services-wg at ripe.net<mailto:ncc-services-wg at ripe.net>>
Отправлено: 18.12.2022 18:35
Тема: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs

Hi Viktor,

I can’t understand why do we need a _survey_ if we are working on policy. A policy shouldn’t be done for a single country.


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Best regards,
Sergey Myasoedov

> On Dec 18, 2022, at 05:10, vs at liptel.net.ua<mailto:vs at liptel.net.ua> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference?
>
> RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies.
>
>
> I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.
>
> THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:
>  Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.
>
>   !!Not here in the working group.!!
>
>  The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user.
>
> The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions)
>
>  It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.  Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.
>
>  (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)
>
>  I'm looking forward to your decision.
>  I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.
>
> Best regards,
> Viktor Stoliarchuk
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