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ds at eurolir.kiev.ua ds at eurolir.kiev.ua
Sun Dec 18 20:14:17 CET 2022
hi
this is a very good initiative
I would like to participate in the voting


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   1. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (Yuri Varenitsa) 
   2. Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs 
      (pavel at hostmaster.kiev.ua) 
   3. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (??????? ??????????) 
   4. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (Sergey Myasoedov) 
   5. Re: Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs (??????? ??????????) 
 
 
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Message: 1 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:06:21 +0200 
From: Yuri Varenitsa <yuri at webber.net.ua> 
To: "ncc-services-wg at ripe.net" <ncc-services-wg at ripe.net> 
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and 
     Lirs 
Message-ID: <24907a28-6c56-9992-1c2c-36bcd2955241 at webber.net.ua> 
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Colleagues, 
 
I support the holding of a general vote between Ukrainian companies in  
order to be able to express their opinion on the issue of blocking. 
 
--  
Kind regards, Yuri Varenytsa 
 
On 18.12.2022 14:32, Alexander Buzaev wrote: 
> Hello 
>  
> *I agree to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs, as well.* 
>  
>  
> -- 
> Alexander Buzaev 
>  
>  
> /18 December 2022, 14:29:29, by "Serhii Khomenko"  
> <khomenko.serhii.m at gmail.com <mailto:khomenko.serhii.m at gmail.com>>: / 
>  
>     Hi, 
>  
>     *I agree to do a survey. * 
>  
>     Kind regards, 
>     Serhii 
>  
>     _______________________________________________________________________ 
>  
>     Viktor Stoliarchuk 
>     2022-12-18 11:10:45 CET 
>  
>     Dear colleagues, 
>  
>     How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a 
>     couple of people at the conference? 
>  
>     RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with 
>     thousands of companies. 
>  
>  
>     I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs. 
>  
>     THE QUESTION HAS TO BE: 
>      ? ?Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers. 
>  
>      ? ? !!Not here in the working group.!! 
>  
>      ? ?The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only 
>     squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if 
>     you are the New user. 
>  
>     The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also 
>     caused several questions) 
>  
>      ? ?It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country 
>     and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies. 
>     Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No. 
>  
>      ? ?(Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.) 
>  
>      ? ?I'm looking forward to your decision. 
>      ? ?I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative. 
>  
>     Best regards, 
>     Viktor Stoliarchuk 
>  
>     --  
>  
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Message: 2 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:25:44 +0200 
From: pavel at hostmaster.kiev.ua 
To: "ncc-services-wg at ripe.net" <ncc-services-wg at ripe.net> 
Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs 
Message-ID: <627519373-4146 at mail.bignet.ua> 
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Hello 
Yes, it would be good to see a list or at least a percentage of people who really want to block resources. 
my intuition tells me, it will be very short. 
 
 
Pavel 
 
 
 
 
 
 ????: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs  
????: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 15:06:21 +0200  
??: Yuri Varenitsa <yuri at webber.net.ua>  
????: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net <ncc-services-wg at ripe.net>  
  
Colleagues,  
  
I support the holding of a general vote between Ukrainian companies in   
order to be able to express their opinion on the issue of blocking.  
  
--   
Kind regards, Yuri Varenytsa  
  
On 18.12.2022 14:32, Alexander Buzaev wrote:  
> Hello  
>   
> *I agree to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs, as well.*  
>   
>   
> --  
> Alexander Buzaev  
>   
>   
> /18 December 2022, 14:29:29, by "Serhii Khomenko"   
> <khomenko.serhii.m at gmail.com <mailto:khomenko.serhii.m at gmail.com>>: /  
>   
> ? ? Hi,  
>   
> ? ? *I agree to do a survey. *  
>   
> ? ? Kind regards,  
> ? ? Serhii  
>   
> ? ? _______________________________________________________________________  
>   
> ? ? Viktor Stoliarchuk  
> ? ? 2022-12-18 11:10:45 CET  
>   
> ? ? Dear colleagues,  
>   
> ? ? How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a  
> ? ? couple of people at the conference?  
>   
> ? ? RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with  
> ? ? thousands of companies.  
>   
>   
> ? ? I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs.  
>   
> ? ? THE QUESTION HAS TO BE:  
> ? ? ?? ?Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers.  
>   
> ? ? ?? ? !!Not here in the working group.!!  
>   
> ? ? ?? ?The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only  
> ? ? squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if  
> ? ? you are the New user.  
>   
> ? ? The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also  
> ? ? caused several questions)  
>   
> ? ? ?? ?It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country  
> ? ? and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.  
> ? ? Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No.  
>   
> ? ? ?? ?(Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.)  
>   
> ? ? ?? ?I'm looking forward to your decision.  
> ? ? ?? ?I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative.  
>   
> ? ? Best regards,  
> ? ? Viktor Stoliarchuk  
>   
> ? ? --   
>   
> ? ? To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit:https://mailman.ripe.net/  
>   
>   
>   
>   
  
  
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Message: 3 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 18:22:04 +0200 
From: ??????? ??????????  <nikolay.maslianikov at gmail.com> 
To: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net 
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and 
     Lirs 
Message-ID: 
     <CAP94h=2kZc+JvZNkzRfOuaY+q=49hRvBDR8OOywDocFBt3bWyQ at mail.gmail.com> 
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Hello everyone, 
I support polling IPv4 objects holders. Using this way RIPE can really 
protect the interests of its customers. 
 
??, 18 ???. 2022 ?. ? 13:34, Askochenskaya Alexandra <askoch at merezha.net>: 
> 
> Hello 
> 
> I totally agree. Everyone should have the possibility to vote and tell it's opinion, if we live in a democracy world, of course. 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, Alexandra 
> 
> 
> 
> On 18.12.22 13:09, dem wrote: 
> 
> 
> I agree 
> 
> -------- ???????? ????????? -------- 
> ??: vs at liptel.net.ua 
> ????: 18.12.2022 10:39 (GMT+01:00) 
> ????: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net 
> ????: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs 
> 
> Dear colleagues, 
> 
> How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference? 
> 
> RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies. 
> 
> 
> I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs. 
> 
> THE QUESTION HAS TO BE: 
>  Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers. 
> 
>   !!Not here in the working group.!! 
> 
>  The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user. 
> 
> The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions) 
> 
>  It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.  Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No. 
> 
>  (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.) 
> 
>  I'm looking forward to your decision. 
>  I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> Viktor Stoliarchuk 
> 
> -- 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/ 
 
 
 
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Message: 4 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 11:35:09 -0500 
From: Sergey Myasoedov <sergey at devnull.ru> 
To: vs at liptel.net.ua, ncc-services-wg at ripe.net 
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and 
     Lirs 
Message-ID: <B7A6F715-0FC5-459F-A90E-53ED5FD24033 at devnull.ru> 
Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8 
 
Hi Viktor, 
 
I can?t understand why do we need a _survey_ if we are working on policy. A policy shouldn?t be done for a single country. 
 
 
-- 
Best regards, 
Sergey Myasoedov 
 
> On Dec 18, 2022, at 05:10, vs at liptel.net.ua wrote: 
>  
> Dear colleagues, 
>  
> How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference? 
>  
> RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies.  
>  
>  
> I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs. 
>  
> THE QUESTION HAS TO BE: 
>  Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers. 
>  
>   !!Not here in the working group.!! 
>  
>  The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user. 
>  
> The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions) 
>  
>  It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.  Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No. 
>  
>  (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.) 
>  
>  I'm looking forward to your decision. 
>  I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative. 
>  
> Best regards, 
> Viktor Stoliarchuk 
> --  
>  
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/ 
 
 
 
 
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Message: 5 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 19:02:48 +0200 
From: ??????? ??????????  <nikolay.maslianikov at gmail.com> 
To: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net 
Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Survey among Ukrainian companies and 
     Lirs 
Message-ID: 
     <CAP94h=2mPqU7+e3vYdxuqZuGNEuwAoMKY8Z3vZXFN4Cf2yQcgg at mail.gmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 
 
U r right, but do not limit the rights of clients of a single country 
while you are working on a security policy. 
 
??, 18 ???. 2022 ?. ? 18:35, Sergey Myasoedov via ncc-services-wg 
<ncc-services-wg at ripe.net>: 
> 
> Hi Viktor, 
> 
> I can?t understand why do we need a _survey_ if we are working on policy. A policy shouldn?t be done for a single country. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, 
> Sergey Myasoedov 
> 
> > On Dec 18, 2022, at 05:10, vs at liptel.net.ua wrote: 
> > 
> > Dear colleagues, 
> > 
> > How can you make decisions about the country, based on the words of a couple of people at the conference? 
> > 
> > RIPE NCC, in fact, imposed sanctions on the whole country Ukraine with thousands of companies. 
> > 
> > 
> > I urge you to do a survey among Ukrainian companies and Lirs. 
> > 
> > THE QUESTION HAS TO BE: 
> >  Do _YOU_ support the initiative to block transfers. 
> > 
> >   !!Not here in the working group.!! 
> > 
> >  The workgroup is an outdated tool in which you can see only squabbles. There is no possibility to see the whole text of Issue, if you are the New user. 
> > 
> > The line _COUNTRY_ was added recently to the _ORG OBJECT_ ( which also caused several questions) 
> > 
> >  It will not be difficult for RIPE NCC to make a selection by country and send a small survey (anonymous or not) to all Ukrainian companies.  Do they want their resources to be blocked? Yes or No. 
> > 
> >  (Whether they are in Ivano-Frankivsk, Chernivtsi, Odessa or Kyiv.) 
> > 
> >  I'm looking forward to your decision. 
> >  I also ask my colleagues to support the initiative. 
> > 
> > Best regards, 
> > Viktor Stoliarchuk 
> > -- 
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/ 
> 
> 
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> 
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