[ncc-services-wg] Measures to Protect Ukrainian Networks

My transfer request also "stuck" in reality they are from me to me but in a
different country, 6 weeks already :(

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:50 PM Олена Кушнір <kea at webpro.net.ua> wrote:

> Good afternoon, Dear Colleagues and Olga
>
> I don't agree with you about " But there isn't direct contact with
> Russians, who might force IP
> holders to make unlawful transfers."
> Contact can be with people in the occupied territories through an email
> address. There are quite a few arguments for physical impact on people,
> because horrors and violence occur in uncontrolled territories.
> Also, the borders of occupied and unoccupied territories change every day.
> I must also remind you *that open company registries are not available*
> during wartime. That is why it is technically impossible to check the
> legitimacy of the signatory when making transactions.
>
> Thanks to the RIPE NCC team for their work.
> And we support temporary blocking of IP- transfers during the war.
>
>
> _______________
> Best regards,
> Olena Kushnir
>
> www.webpro.ua
>
>
> 5 груд. 2022 р. о 12:24 Olha Sira <vasylevych at gmail.com> написав(ла):
>
> Dear Hans Petter Holen and Colleagues,
>
> It was an extremely good and balanced  decision to continue IP address
> transfers for companies based on Ukrainian Government-controlled
> territories.
> But it looks like a hidden ban exists. There haven't been any
> accomplished transfers for Ukrainian IP holders since the RIPE 85
> meeting.
> It leads to problems with the fulfillment of obligations to
> counterparties and creates barriers in operating activities.
>
> Please note,  that for Ukrainian Government-controlled territory the
> danger and difficulties are rockets and drone attacks  and electricity
> outages, which cause absence of  water and heating.
> But there isn't direct contact with Russians, who might force IP
> holders to make unlawful transfers. As was written in the previous
> discussion, blocking transfers for the Ukrainian Government-controlled
> territory does more harm than good.
>
> Your comprehension are greatly appreciated.
>
> Kind regards,
> Olha Sira
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 3:26 PM Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce at ripe.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> At last week’s RIPE 85 meeting in Belgrade, the RIPE community discussed
> ways to further protect the resources of Ukrainian networks. I want to
> provide a brief summary of what we heard at RIPE 85 and outline what we
> will be doing next.
>
> At the meeting, there seemed to be general support for the following
> points:
>
> - Apply a temporary freeze on all transfers from Ukrainian networks until
> a better solution can be found
> - Implement a way for members concerned that they are at risk to lock
> their resources and prevent them from being transferred for a set period of
> time
> - The RIPE NCC should be able to act on urgent matters without going
> through the policy development process, especially as policy changes will
> take several months to complete the RIPE PDP even if there is unanimous
> support
> - Ukrainian operators do not want government to take a more active role in
> terms of approving registry updates
> - The RIPE NCC should move on this matter with urgency
>
> However, we do note that there have been further comments on the mailing
> lists arguing against a blanket freeze on transfers.
>
> As an immediate response, all transfer requests from Ukrainian networks
> will be escalated to me until further notice. We will of course continue to
> apply the highest levels of due diligence when reviewing these requests.
> This will add some amount of delay, which I think is entirely appropriate
> under the circumstances and given the seriousness of the concerns that have
> been raised.
>
> This should be seen as a temporary measure which has the advantage of
> being something we can apply straight away. RIPE NCC staff are currently
> investigating additional short-term measures and we will update you on our
> next steps after these have been discussed with the Executive Board.
>
> We will continue to follow all discussions that take place on the mailing
> lists in the meantime.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Hans Petter Holen
> Managing Director
> RIPE NCC
>
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