[ncc-services-wg] New on RIPE Labs: RIPE NCC and the Cloud - Let’s Start Again

On 4 Jul 2021, at 7:29, Saku Ytti wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 at 08:11, Daniel Karrenberg <dfk at ripe.net> wrote:
>
> My intention was not to sneer, …

I am happy you did not *intend* to sneer. Maybe it even did not sound 
like that to everyone. ;-)

You certainly hit one of *my* sensitivities because to me you sounded 
like countless others who take cheap shots at the ‘de-facto 
monopoly’ and its ‘mission creep’ while they ignore the bottom-up 
way the RIPE NCC is organised. Typically their only suggestion on how to 
improve is to call for ’competition’. Well, ‘competition’ and 
‘monopoly’ are not really compatible by definition.

With your explanation this ‘sneer’ turns into the strangest way ever 
of saying that a comfortably funded ‘de-facto monopoly’ with 
sensible amounts of ‘mission creep’ is more resilient and stable 
than a company that is focussed on shareholder value in the next quarter 
or a bare bones registry operation. And I agree with you; which will not 
really surprise anyone.

It is essential to keep both the registry service and the ‘mission 
creep’ acceptable to both the community and the paying membership. 
Such acceptance comes from a combination of trust and control. That was 
the essence of what I was trying to say.

Now let’s stop this intermission and get back to the matter at hand, 
’RIPE NCC and the Cloud - Let’s Start Again’. We have noticed some 
damage to community trust and we are working hard to repair that. 
Gaining trust is always harder than loosing it. Stay tuned for another 
summary of the concerns and requirements that we heard so far and 
suggestions on how to move forward. Everyone, please let us know if we 
missed something important. It does not hurt to say something positive 
about how we all deal with this either. ;-) ;-) :-)

Daniel