[ncc-services-wg] @EXT: RE: 2018-05 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Legal Address of Internet Number Resource Holder)

Hi Sara,

> I understand your disagreement. And I must agree that we disagree: it is not a question of being educated or not, but I take note of the fact that you do not reckon that is a solvable problem the fact that legal enquiries are sent to network engineers because that is the only address which can be found on the DB. If I would be a company, I'd rather be fine with having both instances published.

It's becoming a bit unclear to me which problem you want to solve precisely.

The RIPE NCC has all needed contact information on file: Technical contact details as well as administrative and legal. A warrant can be served at the RIPE NCC easily. If law enforcement personnel doesn't do that, they should be educated. I believe anyone can be educated, even people who work in law enforcement.

> With regards to data retention laws, I am saying that to comply with the timing of the law there is a need for speed. And this is true for Law Enforcement, yes, but as well for all those services providers who need to comply with provisions such as the NIS. Not everything that happens on the internet is a matter for engineers only, and so the WHOIS. 

And not every problem that law enforcement has is a problem that other people need to solve. In fact, in the interest of protecting basic civil liberties, legislation exists to intentionally make the lives of law enforcement harder. Your problem seems to be rooted in legislation and insufficiently trained personnel, I suggest you look in those areas to solve it.

Regards,

Alex