[ncc-services-wg] 2012-08 Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources Moved to Last Call

Hi Sasha,

A small correction:

> That is exactly the nub of the argument. There IS NO responsibility of a LIR for a PI assignment, this responsibility lies with the resource holder.

The policy (RIPE-452) says: "Notice that the LIR is responsible for liaising with the resource holder to keep registration records up-to-date". So the LIR does have a responsibility.

> I have one more thing to say to the RIPE community: The outcome of the "PDP" seems to have, lately, mostly depended on *who* floated a proposal, *who* objected and *who* yelled the loudest.

I am sorry that you feel like this, but I can assure you that the collective of working group chairs watches each other carefully to make sure that all policy development is done correctly. If a working group chair declares consensus when the working group is not unanimously supporting a policy proposal then that basis for that decision is carefully evaluated. And there is always the option to appeal a decision made by a working group chair. The chairs are volunteers working for their working group community after all.

> If you keep insisting on making this PDP a vehicle for giving the ideas of a small clique a veneer of legitimacy, the internet community *will route around you*.

One of the chair's responsibilities is to make sure that policy development is based on consensus. Objections to a policy must be handled in some way. Finding a better policy text that removes those objections and is also supported by the rest of the working group is preferred, but support for a policy does not have to be unanimous. Sometimes it is not possible to make everybody happy. The chairs then weigh all options and try to find the best outcome for the whole community. I can assure you that this is *difficult* but we (the WG chairs collective as a whole) do our best.

Cheers,
Sander