[ncc-services-wg] 2012-07 Discussion Period extended until 21 February 2013 (RIPE NCC Service to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)

On 05/02/2013 07:55, Randy Bush wrote:
> if they are unresponsive or do not wishfees to engage, i am torn between the
> need for the best whois and dns data we can publish and being pretty
> cold.

honestly, me too - despite all the noise I have made.

There are options ranging from the fundamentally destructive (remove the
registration data) to free services forever for everything that the RIPE
NCC offers.

> unfortunately, that is the status quo.  and we kind of have a historical
> obligation to allow them to ignore the ncc.  but perhaps a carrot, as
> opposed to a stick, can significantly improve this.

Here are some ideas for what could happen if a LRH wasn't engaging (in no
particular order):

Removal of registration as a short term prospect: no-one is seriously in
favour of this.  It's unnecessarily destructive and will not entice anyone
to engage with the RIPE NCC.

Removal of some registration data as a short term prospect: e.g. drop DNS
server entries.  Again, I think this is unnecessarily aggressive.

Time limited amnesty: free registration for X period of time if you engage
within Y period.  Or some other carrot.

Free-for-all-time-for-everyone: as irresponsible as short-term deregistration.

Inconvenience: locking of registration data for LRHs who decline to engage.
 I.e. the data still remains, but you cannot update the details,
particularly the nameservers.  This is a inconvenience whose severity
depends on how necessary good quality IP address services are to the user.
 Locking could be hard-locking (i.e. autorefusal) or moderated (requests
get forwarded to IPRAs).  The latter is probably more sensible.

Removal of registration as a long term prospect: this will be necessary.
There is undoubtedly a pile of ERX address space which is either squatted
or abandoned.  As a long term objective, I think that there is some duty of
stewardship that makes de-registration of data a requirement.  Maybe we
don't need to deal with it in 2012-07, but it is inevitable on a 20-50 year
basis.

Nick