[ncc-services-wg] 2012-07 New Policy Proposal (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)

On 12/09/2012 00:42, Sander Steffann wrote:
> One thing we realised when talking about the current text is that it is
> more than just a policy proposal. It also contains historic stuff and
> summaries of other documents. We (the proposers) are thinking about
> cutting away the informational text (probably to put it in a separate
> informational document) to leave only the real policy related text.
> 
> So all comments are still greatly appreciated! They will certainly be
> taken into account for either the final policy text or the informational
> text.

ok.  my main concerns about it are:

1. it doesn't establish a quid pro quo between the erx holders and the ripe
ncc.  It looks to me like all the obligations are on the RIPE NCC and that
the ERX holders have no obligations whatsoever.  This is not - and cannot
become - the basis of a functional relationship between the RIPE NCC and
the ERX holders because the basis of any functional relationship between
two entities must be a quid pro quo.

2. there is a lot of talk about the rights of ERX holders in this document.
 I'm unclear on why the proposers believe that the RIPE community has the
competence to issue statements of rights like this, given that they don't
believe that the RIPE community has the competence to create policies
concerning this address space.  You can't have it both ways.

3. suggesting policy statements which cannot be undone by future policy
statements seems...odd.

4. it's unclear to me to what extent the policy document represents the
consensus viewpoint of the ERX holder community.

I have a lot of other smaller concerns, but this is more than enough to
start with.

In short, I can't really see how this document could become the basis of an
agreement between the RIPE NCC and the ERX holders.  Daniel's email to
ncc-services-wg of Aug 29 16:37:07 CEST 2012 seems like a much more
sensible starting point.

Nick