[ncc-services-wg] 2012-08 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)

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On 17.10.2012 22:44, Sascha Luck wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:19:42AM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
>> and you think you can reconcile secret sponsoring with the
>> principal goal of accuracy and open visibility of registry data?
> 
> I don't consider absolute "openness" the principal goal.
Sorry to disagree, as a LIR I do.
When you do legal business here, I shouldn't be afraid of someone to
be able to find out which customers I have.. there are other ways anyway..
If some LIR has sponsored X PI, he schould be noted and be able to get
contacted IMHO.

> It may have been in 1992, when all participants were friendly
> academics and techies, unfortunately this is 2012 where every
> asshole with a grudge can use various websites to find out each and
> every business relationship a LIR has on a public, uncontrolled
> database. LIRs are pretty unique in having to, perforce, make
> publically available nearly all info about their business. There
> are other privacy issues with the database, however, these are 
> off-topic in this context.

For a working Internet I'd appreciate a definite, clear, confirmed,
current contact for resources in case of abuse etc..
I know some PI-owners (and thats why I fully agree with Randy's
position and refused to sponsor some of them over all of the years!)
that have 10yrs outdated contacts in the database, no response on
abuse for weeks - and no chance for the remaining 99,9% of the honest
and simply acting trustworthy people (LIRs) out there to contact them.

That's the point where I want to know, whom to contact "upstream" to
clarify this.. Someone should be able to get contacted (not
responsible!)..

Just a suggestion: If its only about privacy, a tradeoff could be:
only visible for LIRs in lirportal (?)


best regards

Michael
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