[ncc-services-wg] [policy-announce] 2012-08 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)

2012-10-16 13:25, Sascha Luck skrev:
> Hi Bengt,
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:51:24PM +0200, Bengt G?rd?n wrote:
>
>> I need to know the sponsoring LIR for my daily work.
>
> Can you go into more detail on this? I'd be really interested in seeing
> an actual use-case for this information. As is, I can't think of one as
> it really only signifies that a LIR, at some stage, handled paperwork
> for an end-user...

Mostly others benefits from this because of our policy to be open. We have
a few thousand assigned objects so I think our openness today gives us a
lot more in return than the reverse. I think it would work for others too.

And now the other way around, which happens. A customer (not our) to a
sponsoring LIR (unknown) contacts us to say that they need to change
something (route, ipv6 domain, what have you). The first question is "what
sponsoring LIR do you have". Typical answer is "what?". Next question is
"what upstream provider do you have". ISP XYZ. Still not the sponsoring LIR.
I have to start explaining to them what it is. Often they still don't 
know. They
have to ask "someone". When they have asked "someone" the best case
scenario is that it's actually a LIR and the case is sorted out. Often 
in a day
or two. Worst case scenario is that we bounce mail back and forth a few
days up to several weeks with no outcome. If I could have seen the 
sponsoring
LIR from the start it would have been sorted out in hours/day.

The sponsoring LIR is also responsible for updating the RIPE db and knows
how to do that. So talking to a person that actually knows what their 
doing is
much more efficient than to be a teacher in the "University of Internet" 
to person
X.

/bengt