[ncc-services-wg] Policy proposal for services to legacy Internet resource holders

At 12:26 27/08/2012 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>On 26/08/2012 00:09, Rogier Spoor wrote:
> > On 8/26/12 1:02 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> >> On 25 Aug 2012, at 19:31, Hank Nussbacher <hank at efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote:
> >>> Based on mnt-by, the # of ERX address blocks managed by the top 11 
> NRENs in Europe:
> >>
> >> mnt-by does not convey registration rights. Or did I miss a whopper of 
> a change in policy recently?
> >
> > For ERX ranges policies are not applicable.
> >
> > MNT-BY is unfortunately the best indicator that's available.
>
>Rogier,
>
>I suspect (strongly) that the individual academic institutions would feel
>that the address space is registered to them, not to the nrens.
>
>Nick

DDN.MIL NIC would tend to disagree with your statement (similar emails were 
sent back in the "old" days to most NRENs since we were the Internet pioneers):

>Date: Fri, 26 Jul 91 14:00:26 PDT
>From: HOSTMASTER at NIC.DDN.MIL
>Subject: Re: Internet network number template
>Sender: SHARON at NIC.DDN.MIL
>To: HANK%VM.TAU.AC.IL at TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL
>cc: sharon at NIC.DDN.MIL, hostmaster at NIC.DDN.MIL
>Reply-To: HOSTMASTER at NIC.DDN.MIL
>In-Reply-To: Message from "Hank Nussbacher
>  <HANK%VM.TAU.AC.IL at TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL>" of Wed, 24 Jul 91 15:44:58 PDT
>Message-ID: <12704514128.56.SHARON at NIC.DDN.MIL>
>
>Hank,
>
>In view of your role as the network coordinator for the universities
>and governmental departments in Israel, we here at the Network
>Information Center feel it would be appropriate if you could serve as
>the IP number delegating authority for the country of Israel.
>
>Basically this means that any applicaton we recieve from Israel will
>be forwarded to you for IP number assignment from your allotment of
>class C and B blocks.
>
>The delegating authority receives the applications, assigns a number
>or numbers and then sends us the information so that we can update our
>database (this is where the form came in that I sent to you in our
>last conversation).
>
>We have several others like yourself who have received large blocks of
>numbers and serve as delegating authorities for their respective
>countries.  Some do this on and "official" basis and some on an
>"unofficial" basis.  The difference between the two is that in the
>"unofficial" situations the delegators wish to use the numbers for
>specific areas of concern (eg only centers of research) and not for
>any company or organization that desires a network number and/or
>network connection.
>
>At the present time we have "official" delegating authorities for the
>countries of Canada, Mexico, Italy, and the Netherlands.  We have
>"unofficial" delegating authorities for the countries of France,
>Germany, and Sweden.
>
>If you would like to contact any of the authorities listed above for
>more details, let me know and I will forward their names and addresses
>to you.
>
>For the time being since you did mention that these numbers are to be
>used for university and for various Ministry offices, may we forward any
>requests from Israel that we receive back to you for processing?
>
>I have taken the liberty of naming the blocks of numbers ISRAELB-BLOCK
>and ISRAELC-BLOCK (totally unimaginative I know but we had to use
>something :-)) If you could think of some other identifier that would
>best fit the network system please let me know and I'll change the
>name immediately.
>
>ISRAELB-BLOCK    147.233 - 147.237            5 B's
>
>ISRAELC-BLOCK    192.114.1 - 192.114.254
>                  192.115.1 - 192.115.254
>                  192.116.1 - 192.116.254
>                  192.117.1 - 192.117.254
>                  192.118.1 - 192.118.254      5 Blocks of C's
>
>
>Thank you for your cooperation.
>
>Regards
>Sharon
>An/Hostmaster