[ncc-services-wg] Re: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey Now Underway!

Patrick (and others),

Not wearing any particulair hats, just responding as one of the net  
citizens who happened to be involved in reviewing this questionaire.  
The question was raised on how to categorize the organisations, you  
can come up with many diffferent views and hundreds of options and you  
have to make choices.

Personally I think the hosting/registar business can be qualified as  
an ISP as you are in fact offering internet services. In response to  
the other point "Please indicate for every service if your  
organization has it deployed now" I think, in the end, the "peering"  
should have disappeared from that list as, IMHO, it ain't a service as  
suc, the same goes for "buying transit". I now think maybe there  
should have been a question on "connectivity" in general, with a  
couple of options such as buy/peer/both.

In response to Mark, I think the same reason applies as with the  
organisation thing. You can come up with hundreds, maybe thousands of  
reasons which can be blocking. You have to keep it short and there is  
after all room for free form comments.

Please keep in mind that this is aimed at thousands of organisations  
and people and should give some generic insight in what people are  
planning for and what the main reasoning is behind it. And yes, I  
personally, don't expect this survey to produce any results different  
from what is known already from other studies.

Grtx,

marco


On 18 jun 2009, at 19:27, Patrik Fältström wrote:

> There was also no alternative on "what kind of organisation are you"  
> that is a hosting/dns/registrar service. Only ISP. If I am not  
> selling IP packets, what to select?
>
> There was also only "selling transit" and "peering" (or similar). I  
> am buying transit.., which connect me with the issue Marc bring up.
>
>   Patrik
>
> On 18 jun 2009, at 16.41, Marc Blanchet wrote:
>
>> I don't want to start a thread on the survey details, but I found one
>> question missing an important choice. The question is:
>>
>> What are likely to be the biggest hurdle(s) when deploying IPv6?
>>
>> Our biggest hurdle (and I'm sure we are not the only ones) is  
>> "Upstream
>> ISP not offering IPv6 transit".   Currently, I have to write into the
>> "other box". I really think that choice should be explicit to make  
>> the
>> survey more precise on hurdles people feel.
>>
>> my 2 cents cdn...
>>
>> Marc.
>>
>> Paul Rendek a écrit :
>>> [Apologies for duplicates]
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> As announced at RIPE 58, TNO and GNKS Consult are working with the  
>>> RIPE
>>> NCC to conduct a survey, sponsored by the European Commission, on  
>>> the
>>> current and future use of IPv6 throughout the RIPE NCC service  
>>> region.
>>>
>>> The IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey is now online, and we  
>>> encourage
>>> all members of the RIPE community to participate:
>>> http://is-nri.com/take/?i=150597&h=1GwWe3dXXMcPrRrOw5s2yg
>>>
>>> The purpose of the survey is to better understand where the  
>>> community is
>>> moving, and what can be done to ensure the Internet community is  
>>> ready
>>> for the widespread adoption of IPv6. The survey was developed in
>>> consultation with members of the RIPE community, and is inspired  
>>> by the
>>> 2008 survey conducted by ARIN and CAIDA in North America. It is
>>> sponsored by the European Commission, which has actively supported  
>>> the
>>> adoption of IPv6, in the interests of innovation and the continuing
>>> competitiveness of European industry.
>>>
>>> We encourage all organisations in the RIPE NCC service region to
>>> participate in this survey, which we hope will establish a  
>>> comprehensive
>>> view of present IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6  
>>> deployment.
>>> By making the survey design similar to the ARIN/CAIDA survey, we  
>>> hope
>>> that the results will contribute to a better global picture of  
>>> current
>>> and future IPv6 deployment.
>>>
>>> The survey is composed of 16 questions and can be completed in 10-15
>>> minutes. For those without IPv6 allocations or assignments, or who  
>>> have
>>> not yet deployed IPv6, the questions will be fewer in number.
>>>
>>> The survey will close on 3 July 2009.
>>>
>>> Results of the IPv6 Deployment Monitoring Survey will be presented  
>>> and
>>> discussed at RIPE 59, which will be held 5-9 October in Lisbon,
>>> Portugal. Results will also be published on IPv6 Act Now:
>>> http://ipv6actnow.org
>>>
>>> Please provide your name and contact information on the survey  
>>> form if
>>> you wish to receive the draft survey analysis when available. Please
>>> also indicate whether you are willing to share additional data  
>>> with the
>>> TNO and GNKS Consult IPv6 Deployment Monitoring team.
>>>
>>> We appreciate your time and interest in completing this survey. If  
>>> you
>>> have any questions concerning the survey, please send an email to
>>> <info at gnksconsult.com>.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Paul Rendek
>>> Head of External Relations and Communications
>>> RIPE NCC
>>
>>
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>>
>

Groet,

MarcoH