[ncc-services-wg] Re: Complaint: Overly complicated when requesting PI space

Hello Mark,

> If you ask me it should be allowed to use PI space for clients (and  
> give
> clients the option to use/maintain more than a /30 (IPv4)).

PI policy explicitly states that PI space can not be re-assigned or  
further assigned to other parties. See http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-471.html#9 
. Any organisation that needs address space for its customers must use  
PA space. The definition of an LIR is that it assigns address space to  
its customers. PI space is (per definition) only to be used by the  
company that requested it itself.

> It is also in my
> opinion not to RIPE (community or the NCC) to ask that information.  
> The
> should ask for general usage, how much would be used for clients for
> example. How many clients a company has shouldn't be important to  
> get PI.

In this case it doesn't matter. That the company needs address space  
for *any* customers indicates that PI space is not appropriate and PA  
space should be used. The company uses address space for customers and  
therefore must become an LIR.

I think it is now time to stop this discussion, at least on the  
address policy mailing list. This discussion is not leading to a  
viable policy proposal.

Thanks,
Sander Steffann
APWG co-chair