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Daniel Karrenberg
daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net
Tue Oct 9 17:47:41 CEST 2007
Subject Excursion to NSD history. Was: Allow DNSMON services to monitor ENUM domains Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <3678E9F7-3B2E-44EC-83B8-F0A5BAA5845F at rfc1035.com> On 08.10 14:33, Jim Reid wrote: > ... And as a former employee of an LIR who saw their > membership fees being used by the NCC to nurture DNS software that > undermined that company's products. ... Jim, I assume you mean NSD. I'll react to the dnsmon side of this separately. The intention of this message is to put the record straight and voice some opinions on the NSD side. Full disclosure: I am a long standing member of the (European) Internet community and speak as such. But be informed of these other things: My personal view is that the RIPE NCC needs to be much more than a number "factory". I am on record with this view consistently over time and from far before the NCC was actually established. [Ref: RIPE meeting minutes, ripe-019, ...] I am the founding CEO of the RIPE NCC and currently serve as is in the role of Chief Scientist. I am one of the instigators of what became NSD; some have said I am *the* instigator but I feel that is not quite right. The gestation of ideas like this is always very hard to pin down. John Crain, Ted Lindgreen and Alexis Yushin and possibly others instigated as much as I did. Facts: NSD was developed by NLnet Labs http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ and not the RIPE NCC. When development of NSD started we were not aware of anyone developing something similar, neither proprietary nor open source. If someone had offered a realistic alternative at the time the RIPE NCC would have taken it and I doubt if NLnet labs had undertaken to develop a "me too". Development of NSD was above board from before it started. Both NLnet Labs and RIPE NCC told the community what we were up to; we actively solicited feedback about our plans and received nothing but encouragement and good suggestions. The NCC resources that went into NSD were at the *very most* 3 months of my time. It is very difficult to account for that since I do not work on a single thing at a time; neither do I work 9-5 and creative work does mostly happen outside these hours anyway. I was the only NCC staff involved with the project. I fully participated in the design of NSD 1 as part of my NCC duties. Since NSD 2 my involvment is reduced to very sporadic advice. I developed the DISTEL test lab and performed regression and performance testing of NSD 1 as part of my NCC duties. See http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-42/presentations/ripe42-dns-distel/index.html After the first versions of NSD 1 were released I have done no furhter work on this. NLnet Labs is operating a test lab now that is built on the foundations of DISTEL. Opinions: The main reason for the creation of NSD were massive concerns that erupted (post 9/11) about the lack of diversity in major widely deployed DNS software. These concerns came from both the technical community but more importantly from layer 9 and above. Those who are not sympathetic to industry self regulation in general and to organisations like ICANN and the RIPE NCC in particular were creating all sorts of FUD in this area with the intention to harm us. Something needed to be done. Any mishaps with the operation of k.root-servers.net are a considerable danger for the RIPE NCC's reputation as a professional organisation, and more importantly in the light of the "Internet Governance" discussions. So hardening this operation is necessary and in the interest of the RIPE NCC. The use NSD has indeed hardened this operation in more than one way. Any performance increase of DNS software on RIPE NCC operated authoritative DNS name servers saves money for additional hardware that would otherwise be required. One could easily defend the level of our involvment in the development of NSD by direct RIPE NCC operational needs: direct involvement in the design made sure that our requirements were met by the product. Thorough regression testing was a prerequisite for us to deploy the software on k.root-servers.net anyway; doing it as part of the NSD effort rather than post-factum product testing was a much more efficient. I believe strongly that the RIPE NCC should help along open source efforts that meet its operational needs and that also meet operational needs of the RIPE community. So even without the very valid defense above it would have been fully appropriate to participate. The NCC should not just be a number factory but also be a place where the membership can place activities that further their common goals and that need a professional and neutral organisation to do them. This is our strength. Letting the RIPE NCC degenerate to a number factory would very likely weaken it to the point where it could be taken over by others, such as governments. We actively communicated to the RIPE community and beyond what we were planning and doing at all times. As far as I remember noone objected at the time. Certainly there were no significant objections from either the RIPE community or the RIPE NCC membership. I find it aggrevating to be critisised about this *long* after the fact when indeed the channels were wide open at the time, as they always are. Daniel
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